Democrats Pass 1.9 Trillion Coronavirus Relief Package

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Originally posted by ilikecomics
Why do you think that's the case ?
taxation isn't theft

Originally posted by Blakemore
taxation isn't theft

Try this one

https://mises.org/wire/taxation-theft

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Try this one

https://mises.org/wire/taxation-theft

well it's not like that in the uk. 😬

Originally posted by Blakemore
well it's not like that in the uk. 😬

Any form of taxation is theft.

Can you opt out of paying taxes in the uk ?

I've never payed for taxes 😅

The argument about forced Government retirement plans being a good thing is a horrible argument.

Anyone could do better than CPP.

Stop forcing me to contribute to a Government plan, and let me do it myself.

Anyone can do better.

Originally posted by Blakemore
I've never payed for taxes 😅

VAT?

Nope

Originally posted by Blakemore
Nope

Why not ?

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Why not ?

He's leeching off society and proud of it.

I'm not leeching

Originally posted by Blakemore
I'm not leeching

You don't pay taxes so how are you not leeching?

Having your cake and eating it is pretty cool

I'm unemployable

Originally posted by Blakemore
I'm unemployable

Does the state pay you then ?

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Any form of taxation is theft.

Can you opt out of paying taxes in the uk ?

Whose stealing the money ?

With theft there needs to be a thief.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Whose stealing the money ?

With theft there needs to be a thief.

The state would be the thief.
If you take money from people at the threat of violence, it's theft.

Rob says taxation isn't theft, but imposition is in the definition of taxation.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Does the state pay you then ?
yes

I can see the argument for someone considering taxes theft, but the overriding problem to me is that people don't have access to resources, means of production or commons, so they are forced to sell their labor for survival, which is coercion on the part of the owners against the ones who have nothing. This extraction of part of their labour is just as much theft as taxes are, in my opinion, and are the bigger more real problem for most people, hence the institution of the state working against that to a degree is justified to me.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
The state would be the thief.
If you take money from people at the threat of violence, it's theft.

Rob says taxation isn't theft, but imposition is in the definition of taxation.

Whose the state though ?

That money is still considered tax payers money. It still belongs to us. And we elect those who decide what to do with it.

So you see (cases of corruption aside), there is no thief, hence taxation is not theft.