Forgot he also can teleport behind Kain, where he can cut him into 3,000,000 pieces and throw him out of the arena. He can also teleport away from any attack Kain tries to hit him with. Also, Heartless angel is a spell, and Kain's rebel shield can't block a spell that goes around your head and into your head. Next thing he will know is that he has 1 health and 0 magic.
well first your taking gameplay terms, you cant use gameplay terms in debates because debates on Games VS are by default real battles, thus gameplay terms if you read through a lot of debates are frowned on by other debators because their not real character attributes, for example do you think Living tribunal hit by the heartless angel would somehow have 1 health and 0 magic?
Sephiroth cna do what he likes, the repel shield not only stops physical attacks straight but actually reflects magical attacks:
Thus Sephiroth dies, or is inflicted with the lmitation of 1 health and 0 magic if he uses it on kain with the shield.
Also Kain can slow time around him ,Sephiroth would be like a slow image, as Kain just walks slowly up to him and sticks his three fingered hand through sephiroths face and leaves him to die.
How can you stop an attack that goes into your head to start out with? Plus, even if it does stop it, and Kain tries to attack him, Sephiroth would just keep teleporting away from Kain and will keep saying "Come on. Is that the best you got?" And again he will try to attack and Sephiroth would keep doing that over and over again. Even if he was at 1 health, Sephiroth doesnt let up, the results would remain the same.
thing is, the result would be that Kain simply as i said before, slows time, uses Stun which would shock Sephiroths brain making him catonic (retarded/handicapped) basically or he could just use TK which ofc doesnt matter where Sephiroth is, Sephiroth would suddenly be grabbed and have the life crushed out of him and he would die.
Kain if he was in KH would be one of those impossibly powerful bosses the player gets frustrated over for months trying to win, onyl to find out that the game was made impossible on purpose as an april fools easter egg
You cant teleport when your slowed in time, frozen in time etc etc, you cant escape every attack because not all attacks are fired, a lot of kains powers like blood shower just have an effect, for example as soon as Kain does blood shower, all the enemies in the area have their blood poured out of htem ,Sephiroth would be dead whether he telepoted or not..and as I said Kain would have his Repel shield, also Sephiroth would need magic to cast heartless angel, kain can take it all away.
pff, no he wouldnt, kain is far far more endurant than sephiroth, first hes undead so cutting him up would be half worthless, Kain would likely have 20 bars and after you actually get him down to only one bar, they all regenerate, they all slowly regen anyway because of his healing factor.
Don't forget that this is Sephiroth, the planet gains possesion of every beings soul when they die, Sephiroth with his willpower is able to stop himself from being absorbed into the lifestream.
Kains has to shoot a slow projectile to temporarily freeze his opponent.
Kain needs blood/souls to use his reavers powers.
Sephiroth instantly teleports around kain dicing him up to a million pieces
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^kh and kh2 sephiroth are both immune to sora's time manipulation{which is much greater than kain's time manipulation} and seeing as in kh2, he is a villian stronger than the strongest xemnas {who is a universal-multiversal threat} , its a WHOLE different level of power compared to final fantasy 7/AC sephirtoh. honestly, kain had next to ZERO chance against normal sephiroth, here he is UTTERLY butchered in NANOSECOND BY KH SEPHIROTH.
SHow me Soras time manipulation, how do you claim its greater as well? Kains power comes from a higher source, an unlm9ited power of magic which its created from, there is no higher source, if perhaps better usage of it.
THen your playing on titles and gameplay.
as I said before, give me something to debate with, not childish ranting I need to correct.
^dick, have u even played kingdom hearts 1 and 2?! it just goes to show your absolutely RIDICULOUS fanboyism when u hatefully reply to a post not even AIMED at u, only at kain, and with u having NO knowledge of the opposition.
its a spell called STOP, and it STOPS time completely and frezzes everything around sora, enemeis, clocks etc. its source is the magical phenomenon in kingdom hearts which is an inherent part of all worlds.
its greater because kinggom hearts works on a MUCH bigger scale than legacy of kain{universe/multiverse} and as opposed to kain only slowing DOWN time, sora completely stops it.
kain's power comes from nosgoth, and is very limited. his feats, are a testament to that{feal free to prove otherwise by showing me actual FEATS of this so called great magic}.
kain or any1 in legacy of kain hasnt done crap with this great MAGIC which can even hold a candle to the kingdom hearts franchise. again, dont speak until u have sumthing other than ur usualk brand of bull.
Ive seen him so many times in battles, hes simply a speed fiend which is pointless against Kain, Also does Sora have any powers that slow time, jsut because he is immune to time stopping doesnt necesserily mean we can assume he can be immune to slow, especially since the world around him is slowing as well. There is no testement to a limit to magic so dont even go there. He doesnt need feats of his magic, since it excists and its ruled that thats what his power does, he doesnt actually have to "do" anything, hell he could defeat this sephiroth in so many ways, even if its immune to time powers. I call gameplay mechanic at this anyway.
he isnt a speed fiend, with a single move {sin harvest} he can kill u and destroy all ur magic. he can call upon a storm of meteors to rain down on you, he can create a ragin inferno of fire pillars which incinerate everything, he can call upon magical rocks with magical field to harm you, he can do his omnislash, he can teleport, he can do his magical long range slashes etc etc etc. his immunities are aplenty.
and because he is immune to time stopping means he is immune also to slowing it down. both are time manipulations, only, stopping is far stronger than slowing down.
i will go there, the magic is dependant on nosgoth, which is finite. in the game it is never said to be infinite anywhwhere. and most of all, there are no FEATS of this said power. all of kain's feats of magic are prett pathetic, as are those of all other beings in legacy of kain. you want kain to MAGICALLY create INFINITE MAGIC, which is a paradox and cant logically happen. so none of what you say matter unles you can show me actual FEATS. until the timeu get those, dont bother replying.
As i said, a speed fiend, hes a wimp, meteors and fiery pillars!! lol......
great, thats got Kain shaking in his boots before he one hits sephiroth with perhaps any of his attacks.
Gameplay mechanic.
The magic is not...so wrong so far, the magici s dependant on the guardians, surprise surpise, Kain is the balance regulator guardian, he can regulate it, thus he is the order. In LOK? lol, and you run around claiming nonsense about DMC and FF? when in FF did beings banish an entire race to another dimension? when in either of those games did someone tansform an entire continent area into a warped realm? Beings manipulate all kinds of magic in LOK, and are far vaster than what your claiming. Dont bother replying until youve got actual evidence for your claims, not only that, but dont reply until youve played the games.