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Is Plagueis or Sidious anakin's father !
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Jack Daniels
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well gibroni Id say write a fan fiction story about it and place it in the star wars eu section so rex can move it fer ya..lol...(hehe still upset how moving the starwars versus storytime thread killed it...not many posts any more)...hmm that was rex responsible wasnt it?


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Dunno.


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Jack Daniels
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me either...I went back and figured it out once....think I used the poop smiley on him and it turned out not to be him...lol...oops....there were some GREAT stories in there though and was very active when in the star wars section....I would though love to see someone write fan story on this topic...till then guess I'll keep reading old tavern posts...thats pretty entertaining....God I hope I get called to werk soon...lol...


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From the New Essential Chronology...page 32:

"(Palpatine) grew concerned over his Master's stated intentions of creating life from nothing. The child that resulted from this Force miracle, Plagueis insisted, would be the living embodiment of the Force itself - and at that moment, Sidious knew that his Master was discussing Sidious' replacement. Soon after, Sidious killed Darth Plagueis in his sleep. The work necessary to create a Force-conceived child continued, however. It is unclear whether Plagueis had initiated the process before his death, or whether Sidious instead implemented his former Master's scheme for his own dark purposes."

Unknown to Plagueis, Sidious had been training Maul all the while and accelerated his training after his death.


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Sorry for the length - but the next paragraph clearly states that his birth wasn't a Festivus miracle.

"On Tatooine, the slave Shmi Skywalker had given birth to a child more powerful in the Force than any other in history - the apparent product of forbidden research initiated by Darth Plagueis and taken up by Darth Sidious. This boy, Anakin Skywalker, had seemingly not been conceived by a human father, but by the midi-chlorians themselves. Palpatine kept a close watch on Anakin as the boy grew. If trained as a Sith apprentice, such a child could be vastly more powerful than Maul."


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Have I wandered in the EU section again?


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Jack Daniels
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From the New Essential Jack Daniels version of all this...page ?(figure that out later): Yoda is his Father! after 800 years and no lady would have his little toad twinkie he decided he needed an offspring...someone to pass on his midichlorians to...he went down to the midichlorian donor bank...got milked for a few...and sent out a droid to impregnate the first virgin it could find...the droid had to go all the way to tatooine...(the girls in this galaxy were just wild) there he found her found her ...shot her up with yodas midichlorians and yoda meditated guiding the little suckers where they needed to go...(2 be continued...hopefully not!) hehe okay that was lame but in the movie section that carries just as much weight right?...lol...sorry hutt guess Im being a pain again..lol..that idea really did pop in my head though as canon goes we dont know so Yoda could be...thats all conceivable..... conceive..hehe...okay time fer another drink


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There is no way crap that is canon. I'll never believe that. Anakin is a product of the Force. Period, no outside manipulations by the Sith were involved.no expression


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There is no way crap that is canon. I'll never believe that. Anakin is a product of the Force. Period, no outside manipulations by the Sith were involved.no expression


+1


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There was no Plageus. All a lie from Palpatine

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Star Wars Insider #82 - Interview with Ian McDiarmid

Q: Was (Anakin's) seduction made easier because Anakin is essentially fatherless?

A: Anakin, of course, is a man who doesn't have a father, or if he does we don't know who he is. And ROTS doesn't provide any definitive answers, leaving the whole area ambiguous. There are a few clues dotted around, and if anyone wants to join the dots they probably can. What I liked about the film is that there isn't any revelatory fact - there are just a few possibilities, and you can make up your own mind what you think fits."

I don't get it. If GL intended to have Anakin's conception be a certain way - then why would he allow the EU to "bastardize" his vision by giving it such a different angle?

In a 2005 Hyperspace interview, Rick McCallum says he believes Palpatine created Anakin. Is he considered EU?

http://blogs.starwars.com/acolyteblog/9

The people actually involved in these movies were OBVIOUSLY leaning in a certain direction regarding Anakin's conception...the EU is following their lead.

Why hasn't GL just simply pulled the plug on the EU if it's not what he had in mind? I mean, he set it up that way.

But - in the end - it IS up to the viewer to decide.

"Palpatine isn't Sidious!"


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There is no way crap that is canon. I'll never believe that. Anakin is a product of the Force. Period, no outside manipulations by the Sith were involved.no expression

Of course there was no sith involved...Yoda is da man! who in the movies was the most connected to the force? the stuff with Qui Gon being the most connected was taken off the dvd extras so you can only say the most powerful force user via movies was Yoda...he has to be the daddy!...if I didnt like my bouncing boob avatar so much I would put Yoda drinking whiskey back up..lol... confused dilemma: bouncing boobs or yoda wasted? ah well sorry yoda


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McCallum is by no means canon... no.


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you said Lucas Novels or Movies only..so okay on that one but anyways Yoda woulda been the better deadbeat dad..lol..


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Originally posted by queeq
McCallum is by no means canon... no.


Gotta love our good ol' Rick.


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Why would GL plant the possibilities that Anakin could be a product of the Sith?

If he wanted Anakin's birth to be a straight-up product of the will of the Force - why not have it that way?

Power of Myth?


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Why would GL plant the possibilities that Anakin could be a product of the Sith?


Did he?


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Nope that'd the rabid fanboys that first started that crapola, which is just the tip of the iceberg of how fanboys have f*cked up my beloved saga. mad


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Fanboys started that crapola? It's in the movie, guy.

If people discussing what Lucas' intent was with the movies f'cked up your beloved saga - you're a wuss.

Out of curiosity, if that's the tip of the iceberg - how else have fanboys destroyed your saga? Is it those damn conventions?


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Originally posted by Anakin_the_Hutt
Fanboys started that crapola? It's in the movie, guy.

If people discussing what Lucas' intent was with the movies f'cked up your beloved saga - you're a wuss.

Out of curiosity, if that's the tip of the iceberg - how else have fanboys destroyed your saga? Is it those damn conventions?


JP is a girl! And she is awesome.

Fans always misinterpret the movies and the motives of the genius creators of Star Wars. Both Lucas and SS get a lot of heat despite the fact they have maintained the Star Wars films and kept them up at a level no other earth being could manage.


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