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Exactly, Demons aren't even provably evil in most cases.
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Jul 14th, 2007 09:48 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Grey Fox
Exactly, Demons aren't even provably evil in most cases.
LOL I actually think the word demon orginally meant wise spirit. I think some of the demons in the Bible were originally pagan gods, of course because your supposed to worship one God the pagan gods became evil.
Chrisanity itself isnt bad but it seems one of the main purposes of Abrahamuc faiths was to control people as opposed to heathenism and paganism which was just a religion, as a result anything non-Christian became bad.
Anyway you probably know this already.
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Jul 14th, 2007 11:44 AM
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The church made up demons. The most worshipped gods in Pagan religions were made into demons and witches like Freyja, I believe. In mythology she also had a cat, and the church made cats demonic too. They made her a witch. Just imagine another religion came in, a very powerful one and made Jesus into a demon. The worship of him would be your death. This is what happened to them.
Jul 14th, 2007 12:11 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by debbiejo
The church made up demons. The most worshipped gods in Pagan religions were made into demons and witches like Freyja, I believe. In mythology she also had a cat, and the church made cats demonic too. They made her a witch. Just imagine another religion came in, a very powerful one and made Jesus into a demon. The worship of him would be your death. This is what happened to them.
Yes Freyja is the godess of withcraft and she is associated with cats. Cats draw her chariot.
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Jul 14th, 2007 12:16 PM
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I like cats so she is great.
Good points made all round.
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Jul 14th, 2007 04:20 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes Freyja is the godess of withcraft and she is associated with cats. Cats draw her chariot.
I believe it was more the church that turned her into the goddess of witchcraft, she was more than that. She was actually quite an important goddess.
http://www.valkyrietower.com/freyja.html
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Jul 15th, 2007 12:18 PM
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You realise that most of that is utter garabage made up by romantics hundreds of years after the Norse religions died.
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Jul 15th, 2007 12:22 PM
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Incorrect she was the godess of withcraft before they tried to demonize her. Even in Norse society witchs were sometimes persecuted becuase they were feared, basically they were dangerous.
I think some witches were even dedicated to Thor and Freyja was supposed to have taught other gods withcraft.
The difference is that in Norse society sometimes wicthes were accepted but due to Christanity it became something totally evil.
Not a New Age site is that?
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Jul 15th, 2007 12:24 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Alfheim
Incorrect she was the godess of withcraft before they tried to demonize her. Even in Norse society witchs were sometimes persecuted becuase they were feared, basically they were dangerous.
I think some witches were even dedicated to Thor and Freyja was supposed to have taught other gods withcraft.
The difference is that in Norse society sometimes wicthes were accepted but due to Christanity it became something totally evil.
Not a New Age site is that? Just a site..
Oh, I did edit my post too.
Jul 15th, 2007 12:28 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by debbiejo
Just a site..
Oh, I did edit my post too.
Well yeah shes also the godess of marriage, war fertility and sex.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
You realise that most of that is utter garabage made up by romantics hundreds of years after the Norse religions died.
Whats utter Garbage?
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Jul 15th, 2007 12:30 PM
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Well, the point was that the church demonizes other religions.
Jul 15th, 2007 12:31 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by debbiejo
Well, the point was that the church demonizes other religions.
Well we both agree on that.....so there.
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Jul 15th, 2007 12:32 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by debbiejo
Well, the point was that the church demonizes other religions.
Ofcourse it does. Most religions tend to do that.
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Jul 15th, 2007 12:33 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Ofcourse it does. Most religions tend to do that.
Er Abrahamic religons tend to do that.
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Jul 15th, 2007 12:34 PM
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Okay, I guess I made my point then. I win.
Jul 15th, 2007 12:34 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by debbiejo
Okay, I guess I made my point then. I win.
*tries to find something to disagree on* Er.....no you didnt.
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Jul 15th, 2007 12:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Alfheim
Er Abrahamic religons tend to do that.
Well, maybe that shows they have true convictions.
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Jul 15th, 2007 12:37 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Well, maybe that shows they have true convictions.
No, they were bullies.
Jul 15th, 2007 12:39 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Well, maybe that shows they have true convictions.
Are you serious?
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No, they were bullies.
Kick his ass debbie. *pushes her* Get in there!
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Jul 15th, 2007 12:41 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by debbiejo
No, they were bullies.
Clearly you people dont know whats good for you...maybe the Church should help you...
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