God (YHWH) has fans: Allah, Muhammed, Muslims
The Qu'ran repeatedly talks about Jesus, His mother Mary, and Christians, but the Bible (the Word of the living God YHWH never talks about Muhammed, Allah, Islam, or Muslims.
Have you ever wondered why the Bible never mentions Muhammed, Allah, Islam, or Muslims--not even once. But the writers of the Qu'ran cannot stop talking about Jesus, Christians, and Mary.
Is Allah a fan of YHWH, is Muhammed a fan of Jesus?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Qu'ran repeatedly talks about Jesus, His mother Mary, and Christians, but the Bible (the Word of the living God YHWH [B]never talks about Muhammed, Allah, Islam, or Muslims.Have you ever wondered why the Bible never mentions Muhammed, Allah, Islam, or Muslims--not even once. But the writers of the Qu'ran cannot stop talking about Jesus, Christians, and Mary.
Is Allah a fan of YHWH, is Muhammed a fan of Jesus? [/B]
No, I haven't wondered that once since....err...the bible was written earlier.
And your God has much more fans. Like many millions.
And...in theory Allah is YHWH...in theory. Like...pre-crisis Superman is post-crisis Superman...in theory. Know what I'm saying.
Originally posted by Bardock42
No, I haven't wondered that once since....err...the bible was written earlier.And your God has much more fans. Like many millions.
And...in theory Allah is YHWH...in theory. Like...pre-crisis Superman is post-crisis superman...in theory. Know what I'm saying.
No, YHWH and Allah are not one and the same. I have already substantiated this many times.
Originally posted by Bardock42
No like, in theory...you know?
Are God and Allah One and the Same?
The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (i.e. Israel) and Allah are not the same deity. I could go on enumerating the many reasons why this is true but I would be here until Christmas so I will defer to others who have already done the legwork.
Although I will list some of the most basic reasons why God and Allah are not one and the same here they are:
1. God has a Son but Allah denies having a Son.
2. God is Triune but Allah denies being triune.
3. God's Son Jesus was killed by crucifixion but Allah denies this fact.
4. God is Love (this is Who He is) but Allah is never called love.
5. God's covenant Name is YHWH not Allah. YHWH is never called Allah in the Bible, and Allah is never called YHWH in the Qu'ran (Koran).
6. The Bible never mentions Mecca nor Medina, but mentions Jerusalem 814 times! However the Koran never mentions Jerusalem.
7. God's special treasure (the Jews) are a people that He has chosen for Himself. The God of the Bible has set His love upon the Jews. Allah states in the Qu'ran,
Sura 5:51
51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
These are just seven reasons/facts that confute the fallacy/untruth that the God of the Bible and Allah are the same God. They are not the same God. Those who mendaciously assert that they are the same must deal with these scathing contradictions.
http://www.letusreason.org/Islam6.htm
http://www.kingmessiahproject.com/is_allah_not_God.html
Are God (i.e. YHWH) and Allah one and the same?
No. There are many false gods but only one, true God: the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The living God who is the Father of Jesus Christ. This is the true God.
The Christian God and Allah cannot be one and the same because in the Qur'an it is recorded that Allah denies having a son. But the Bible states in a multitude of places that God does have a Son. Jesus even stated that God is His Father. Let's take a look at the Qur'an. The Qur'an is organized into "Surahs" instead of by chapter and verse like the Bible.
Read:
Surah 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
Surah 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things ?
Surah 18:4,5 And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.
Those are very damaging discrepancies and contradictions. Based on the information contained in the Bible and in the Qur'an, God (i.e. YHWH, the God of the Bible) is the true God, but Allah is "a" false god. There are many false gods and Allah is just one of the many gods who are false. The true God does have a Son and His Name is a Name that is above every name. That Name is Jesus!
More proof from the Qur'an that the God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same. God has a Son (Jesus the Christ), but Allah denies having a son.
Surah 23:91 Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any god along with Him; else would each god have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them would assuredly have overcome others. Glorified be Allah above all that they allege.
This is not an issue of semantics, hair-splitting, or being technical. I have quoted Allah's own words where he himself states (in his Qu'ran in a number of places) that he does not have a son.
On the contrary, the Bible (the Word of the true God) states in the Old Testament and New Testament in many places throughout Scripture that God does indeed have a Son.
The God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same. Christ Jesus is never mentioned as the Son of Allah because Allah is not God. Jesus Christ is only called or refrerred to as a prophet in the Qu'ran. But in the Bible Jesus is called the Son of God. In addition, God Almighty calls Jesus His beloved Son. The God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same.
Allah states in no uncertain terms that he does not have a son. But the God of the Bible says that Jesus is His beloved Son. Is Allah confused? No, Allah is not confused. Allah is correct, he does not have a son. Allah denies having a son because the God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same. YHWH (i.e. the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) and Allah are not one and the same. The God of the Bible is the true God and His Son's Name is Jesus (Who is the Christ).
Furthermore, Allah is the mood god, he has an idol that represents him (this is documented, historical fact). But the God of the Bible, YHWH (i.e. the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob), does not have (nor has He ever had) any kind of idol to represent Him, associated with Him, nor in connection with Him--whatsoever. (This too is documented, historical fact). All the other gods of the earth have had some type of idol (i.e. a literal, physical statue or other manufactured work of their likeness and image that has been carved, fashioned, formed, or created to stand for them). So why hasn't the God of the Bible ever had an idol to represent Him? The answer is simple: the God of the Bible has never been an idol, is not now an idol, and will never be an idol. Unfortunately, Allah and those who represent him can never say that. The God of the Bible and Allah are not one and the same.
Former Muslims Testify About Islam
http://www.johnankerberg.org/TV/now_playing_IPR11.htm
Two formerly devout Muslims let the cat out of the bag and told their father that God (YHWH) and Allah are not one and the same. These brothers were given an ultimatum by their father to either choose him or to choose Jesus Christ. These brothers risked being disowned by their father. Find out what evidence led them to their decision to trust Jesus the Christ while they were in college. These brothers currently hold PhDs and are seminary professors.
Re: God (YHWH) has fans: Allah, Muhammed, Muslims
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Qu'ran repeatedly talks about Jesus, His mother Mary, and Christians, but the Bible (the Word of the living God YHWH [B]never talks about Muhammed, Allah, Islam, or Muslims.Have you ever wondered why the Bible never mentions Muhammed, Allah, Islam, or Muslims--not even once. But the writers of the Qu'ran cannot stop talking about Jesus, Christians, and Mary.
Is Allah a fan of YHWH, is Muhammed a fan of Jesus? [/B]
Gee I don't know. Maybe because Islam, Muslims, and Muhammad didn't exist until over five-hundred years after the Bible was written.
On the other hand, the Bible talks about Allah all the time. This has been explained to you., and your refusal to learn is not to your credit.
Re: Re: God (YHWH) has fans: Allah, Muhammed, Muslims
Originally posted by Gregory
Gee I don't know. Maybe because Islam, Muslims, and Muhammad didn't exist until over five-hundred years after the Bible was written.On the other hand, the Bible talks about Allah all the time. This has been explained to you., and your refusal to learn is not to your credit.
Indeed. How many times does the Torah mention Jesus by name? Or mary and Joseph? It doesn't. In fact, the inclusion of the first five books of the bible that do not mention Jesus are included to ellude to the fact that Jesus is the Jewish savior being awaited by the Jews. This is where JIA will hide, lending credence to his own faith while denying the legitimacy of any and all others.
Also, it shouldn't suprise you that he's being willfully ignorant, that's what socks do.
Re: Re: Re: God (YHWH) has fans: Allah, Muhammed, Muslims
Originally posted by Devil King
Indeed. How many times does the Torah mention Jesus by name? Or mary and Joseph? It doesn't. In fact, the inclusion of the first five books of the bible that do not mention Jesus are included to ellude to the fact that Jesus is the Jewish savior being awaited by the Jews. This is where JIA will hide, lending credence to his own faith while denying the legitimacy of any and all others.Also, it shouldn't suprise you that he's being willfully ignorant, that's what socks do.
No, that is what fundamentalist Christians do. 😉
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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, that is what fundamentalist Christians do. 😉
It was a toss up for me. In the end, I chose sock because that's what I believe he is. This religionish persona is just a character. (I love the term religionish)
Re: God (YHWH) has fans: Allah, Muhammed, Muslims
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Qu'ran repeatedly talks about Jesus, His mother Mary, and Christians, but the Bible (the Word of the living God YHWH [B]never talks about Muhammed, Allah, Islam, or Muslims.Have you ever wondered why the Bible never mentions Muhammed, Allah, Islam, or Muslims--not even once. But the writers of the Qu'ran cannot stop talking about Jesus, Christians, and Mary.
Is Allah a fan of YHWH, is Muhammed a fan of Jesus? [/B]
Mohammad in the Bible ....!!
Re: God (YHWH) has fans: Allah, Muhammed, Muslims
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Qu'ran repeatedly talks about Jesus, His mother Mary, and Christians, but the Bible (the Word of the living God YHWH [B]never talks about Muhammed, Allah, Islam, or Muslims.Have you ever wondered why the Bible never mentions Muhammed, Allah, Islam, or Muslims--not even once. But the writers of the Qu'ran cannot stop talking about Jesus, Christians, and Mary.
Is Allah a fan of YHWH, is Muhammed a fan of Jesus? [/B]
Maybe because the bible was written (supposedly) around Jesus's time, and Muhammed lived about 500 years later? And if the bible mentioned Muhammed, then its credibility as an actual representation of what Jesus taught would be crippled?
The problem is, that you exect us to accept that the Bible is fact. Some of us do not.
Muslims claim that Bible prophesied Muhammad. Their belief and views are as reliable as the Bible, and you cannot use Bible to claim that their interpretation is ''wrong''.
We had a discussion about interpretation. There isn't a single ''right'' one, so you don't really have a point.
Re: Re: God (YHWH) has fans: Allah, Muhammed, Muslims
Originally posted by Gregory
Gee I don't know. Maybe because Islam, Muslims, and Muhammad didn't exist until over five-hundred years after the Bible was written.On the other hand, the Bible talks about Allah all the time. This has been explained to you., and your refusal to learn is not to your credit.
This is one time that I want you to back up what you write Gregory. I don't know if I have ever asked you to do this.
Can you just once show me chapter and verse where God talks about Allah?
You claim that the Bible talks about Allah all the time, but I ask for just one reference of this (just one).
Re: Re: Re: God (YHWH) has fans: Allah, Muhammed, Muslims
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
This is one time that I want you to back up what you write Gregory. I don't know if I have ever asked you to do this.[B]Can you just once show me chapter and verse where God talks about Allah?
You claim that the Bible talks about Allah all the time, but I ask for just one reference of this (just one). [/B]
Get a grip... Allah is an Islamic word for the god of Abraham.
Re: Re: Re: God (YHWH) has fans: Allah, Muhammed, Muslims
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
This is one time that I want you to back up what you write Gregory. I don't know if I have ever asked you to do this.[B]Can you just once show me chapter and verse where God talks about Allah?
You claim that the Bible talks about Allah all the time, but I ask for just one reference of this (just one). [/B]
What, the bible was written in modern english 1500 years ago? You also have no place asking anyone to back up what they write, when you never do.