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The Order vs. Anakin
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Pyron_Knight
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Anakin's premonition wasn't based on anything tangible, it was his belief. His attempt to save Padme's life had less to do with her safety and more to do with his selfish reason.


No...it has to do with her safety. His belief is in turn based on the fact the one other time he had such a dream, it was absolutely right. He wanted to keep what happened to his mother from happening to his wife. That's just obvious.


And I just wanted to post this as it's kinda...well not really relevant but funny IMO.


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No...it has to do with her safety. His belief is in turn based on the fact the one other time he had such a dream, it was absolutely right. He wanted to keep what happened to his mother from happening to his wife. That's just obvious.
Doesn't change the fact though that guy was a complete moron. His novelized self was so much more convincing.


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No...it has to do with her safety. His belief is in turn based on the fact the one other time he had such a dream, it was absolutely right. He wanted to keep what happened to his mother from happening to his wife. That's just obvious.


And I just wanted to post this as it's kinda...well not really relevant but funny IMO.



He said it himself. He can't live without her. And please, he's basing everyone on 1 dream that was accurate. That's hardly conclusive that his dreams are premonitions. Meanwhile, the Sandman just wanted to keep his girl alive.


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Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
the jedi are just monks, not police or government officials.


Beg your pardon, but no. Jedi are not "just monks," they are keepers of the peace.

Palpatine started a war that devastated the Republic and led to countless deaths, to say nothing of the fact that he was a traitor as he'd broken his oath of office. Mace was well within his rights.

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Sure they are. There is no law against being a Sith. So killing one is just like killing anyone else.


Actually there is. In PoD, it is stated that the Sith are an illegal organisation that was outlawed some 4000 years ago (3000 years in PoD, 4000 by the time of the PT).

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Doesn't change the fact though that guy was a complete moron. His novelized self was so much more convincing.


It's the same damn thing. Exact same motivation and everything.


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It's the same damn thing. Exact same motivation and everything.


No, it's not.


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Yes, it is.


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Actually there is. In PoD, it is stated that the Sith are an illegal organisation that was outlawed some 4000 years ago (3000 years in PoD, 4000 by the time of the PT).
wow that's against our rights to freedom of religion.


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It's the same damn thing. Exact same motivation and everything.
His whinyness is downplayed. He seemed so much more badass in the novel, and so much more legitimately duped by Palaptine. It's hard to stay pissed a character that's well written.


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[torment] DS is wrong, as usual.

Pryon wins.

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[torment] DS is wrong, as usual.

Pryon wins.


Faunus trolling ftw.


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You would know.

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You would know.


Yea, I know it well thanks to you. You just use the term as a rebuttal when your low self esteem becomes transparent and your self defense mechanism kicks in.


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You must have me confused with... you.

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You must have me confused with... you.


There goes that self defense mechanism I was talking about. Next time please try to be a little less predictable.


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Oh man... they're all blinking at once. That is so trippy.


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Re: The Order vs. Anakin

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Originally posted by Luminatus
Was it the stupidly rigid Jedi Order?
Why would the Order be at fault? Seriously, Anakin was a immature and pshycotic nutjob. No one put a gun to his head. His weakness was his innability to think straight.

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Ok, i may be a bit to fairly wrong in this cuz i havnt read it in a while, but i do know a few things: Palpatine was part of the Rule of Two, which means he had Banes teachings. This is from the Bane Rule of Two: There are some who posses the ability to shoot lightning from their fingers, that can move mountains with mere thoughts, then there are those who are skilled in the arts of persuasion, that can affect millions of worlds with just a few words, and then there are those who posses a natural affinity for the dark side itself, those are the ones who can unleash dark magics and hidden sorceries on their foes." i think Sidious was one of the persuaders, though all after Bane knew how to cast lightning, Palpatine DID affect millions of world with just a few words. I think a guy like that could easily get out of being convicted for high treason. Dont forget that he was the Supreme Chancellor, AND the most respected man in the galaxy. He was supposed to be the savior of the Republic, i dont htink he would be convicted. He would get off and then the jedi would be attacked by the entire Grand Army of the Republic for attacking him, not just Anakin and the 501st legion. Palpatine was WAY to dangerous to be left alive, as he killed thousands of people, and started a full scale rebellion just to get a few people out of the way. He also killed enyone that was force sensitive that he found, or ordered them killed, or turned them into his slaves. There was no room for error, there was no force sensitive that he left alive, or free, and there was no person that wasnt oppressed except people that were high in his favor. Case closed, i think the jedi would remake the Code if he died AFTER his Sith identity had been revealed. Maybe even before.


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