doesn't matter. the taking of the law into ones own hands is essentially against the law. Anakin had every lawful right to save sideous. the jedi are just monks, not police or government officials.
Personally I support the unofficial support of vigilantes. To an extent. For me, Mace falls within that extent. Plus Palps was a Sith, they're not protected by law.
__________________ Recently Produced and Distributed Young but High-Ranking Political Figure of Royal Ancestry within the Modern American Town Affectionately Referred To as Bel-Air.
Pfff. Law. Law is a creation of mortals, not of the gods. Laws can be changed. Laws can be broken. Laws can be misguided. Laws should exist to protect the peaceful and the innocent, not the warmongers and murderers. None of the latter who are known to be as such should be protected by law. Once it is recognized that you forfeit law, law should forfeit you and your so called "rights."
Sith are not lawful. They defy the Republic's law and the intent of its morals. They are the ultimate perpetrators of anti-law. The savagery that their nature has inflicted is not lawful, why should the law protect them? No law exists decrying the Sith, and no law exists protecting them. They're outside the law, neither above it nor within it. Law is a product of morals and values. Sith are outside the law. Sith are outside morality.
__________________ Recently Produced and Distributed Young but High-Ranking Political Figure of Royal Ancestry within the Modern American Town Affectionately Referred To as Bel-Air.
This is a good discussion. There is a difference between vigilantes and vigilantism. The former decides to take the law into his own hands when it suits him. The latter is done by people who genuinely believe that at the moment of their decision, it is the best decision and for the good of the state/humanity. Mace practiced vigilantism because the law was inadequate to deal with Palpatine, and he would have done even more damage knowing that the Jedi found out about his sith status. Ergo, what Mace did might not be legal, but it is justifiable.
Absolutely not. Anakin did what he for purely selfish reasons. It wasn't for the greater good, it was for him based on a dream or premonition he had. Not even close to being the same thing as what Mace did.
Though Anakin "thought" he was justified, so in his mind it was okay. Just like the Sandman from Spiderman 3. "I'm not a bad guy. I have a little girl who's sick. That makes it okay to break the law."
__________________ Recently Produced and Distributed Young but High-Ranking Political Figure of Royal Ancestry within the Modern American Town Affectionately Referred To as Bel-Air.
I wouldn't go as far as call them the same. The Sandman (or Lowell from Wings) was trying to save his little girl's life because of an imminent threat. Anakin was trying to save Padme's life because he wanted her for himself, and because of a "dream" he had. They seem similar but I would be more inclined to call the Sandman's issue, while illegal and legally reprehensible, in some ways, justifiable.
Yeah, he was legitimately doing it for someone else, not for his own desires (in a sense). But personally I don't care about such sentimentality. If I had it my way, Anakin would be put to death and Sandman's going away for life. Without his sand of course.
__________________ Recently Produced and Distributed Young but High-Ranking Political Figure of Royal Ancestry within the Modern American Town Affectionately Referred To as Bel-Air.
Well as explained, the Sandman committed manslaughter. I genuinely felt bad for the guy and I'm as conservative as they come. Maybe a few years in jail, no more than 5 for involuntary manslaughter.
Anakin deserves the needle or my personal favorite, the firing squad.
LOL I see him just catching the bullets. Firing squad via Metal Storm.
__________________ Recently Produced and Distributed Young but High-Ranking Political Figure of Royal Ancestry within the Modern American Town Affectionately Referred To as Bel-Air.
I don't know what force properties bullets have but I'd guess with 10 automatic assault rifles firing at him, it's conceivable that he will miss at least half the bullets as they paint his body full of lead.
Anakin did what he did because he knew his dreams were not just dreams. He had a dream before of someone he loved dying..and oh look, he was totally right.
Anakin believing Padme would die in childbirth and trying to prevent this is completely understandable as he had evidence that those visions were right.
And I like the subjective morality of your condemnation.
"I feltt bad for this guy but not this other guy. Kill the one I don't feel bad for."
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I'm siding with Pyron on this issue. Plus, if it was me, I'd probably have done the same thing as Anakin in his position (though I would have to think on it because I'm not a twit who forgets that Sith are habitual lier's)
Except one was doing it for selfish reasons while the other one was doing it to save his daughter's life. One was also doing it based on premonitions, while the other one was doing it based on things that have already transpired.
Anakin's premonition wasn't based on anything tangible, it was his belief. His attempt to save Padme's life had less to do with her safety and more to do with his selfish reason.
The Sandman's attempt, while definitely reprehensible, was more selfless because his little girl was dying. There was no admonition about him not being able to live without her, no selfish reasons.
FER TEA!!
Jul 14th, 2009 07:04 AM
