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Originally posted by NihilistLOL. Onslaught would murder superman, do you even know hulks level at that time he "hung" with Onslaught?? It was FAR above supermans.
If Hulk can hang with Onslaught, Superman can easily.JLA take the win.
His physical strength was also shown to be at obscenely high levels; so much so he was able to literally rip the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak out of Juggernaut and throw him across North America and go toe-to-toe in a physical fight with the Hulk even after the Hulk's mind had been blanked and his strength and rage set to incredible levels thanks to Jean Grey 'shutting down' the subconscious influence that Bruce Banner normally exerted over the Hulk to stop him going too far.
For a time, Onslaught had these powers while still in his first form; the majority of these came from the absorption of Nate Grey and Franklin Richards. In the end, Onslaught's true body was revealed to be a mass of pure, psionic energy that was immune to all forms of physical attacks.
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Originally posted by country1000Just a pile of nonsense.
LOL. Onslaught would murder superman, do you even know hulks level at that time he "hung" with Onslaught?? It was FAR above supermans.His physical strength was also shown to be at obscenely high levels; so much so he was able to literally rip the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak out of Juggernaut and throw him across North America and go toe-to-toe in a physical fight with the Hulk even after the Hulk's mind had been blanked and his strength and rage set to incredible levels thanks to Jean Grey 'shutting down' the subconscious influence that Bruce Banner normally exerted over the Hulk to stop him going too far.
For a time, Onslaught had these powers while still in his first form; the majority of these came from the absorption of Nate Grey and Franklin Richards. In the end, Onslaught's true body was revealed to be a mass of pure, psionic energy that was immune to all forms of physical attacks..
lol at that Hulk being above Superman
Originally posted by JakeTheBankShow me this so-called " no holding back superman ". Show me superman not holding back and his strength increasing like the hulks strength increases as he gets angrier. Show me ANY instant where superman stops holding back and wrecks people like black adam.etc. By the way, since you are the one who claimed that superman has unlimited strength, how does " not holding back makes him stronger jake?
👆Given Superman's feats of no holding back, it's ludicrous to think that that portrayal of Hulk is clearly far beyond him.
Originally posted by country1000
Show me this so-called " no holding back superman ". Show me superman not holding back and his strength increasing like the hulks strength increases as he gets angrier. Show me ANY instant where superman stops holding back and wrecks people like black adam.etc. By the way, since you are the one who claimed that superman has unlimited strength, how does " not holding back makes him stronger jake?
Superman does have dynamic strength, and when amped has made the rest of his peers look weaker by comparison.
Also, it's possible to not punch as hard as you're able. Superman and Thor do it all the time.
Originally posted by -Pr-Superman does not have dynamic strength. He has NEVER made CM, Black Adam Doomsday or any other character as strong or stronger look weaker by comparison. The very idea that he has to sundip and admitted that CM is his equal proves my point. There is not one writer of superman that has stated or shown in any comic that superman has dynamic strength. Superman has been shown plenty of times in his so-called " not holding back state " where he was still matched strength for strength by many characters.
Superman does have dynamic strength, and when amped has made the rest of his peers look weaker by comparison.Also, it's possible to not punch as hard as you're able. Superman and Thor do it all the time.
Originally posted by country1000
Superman does not have dynamic strength. He has NEVER made CM, Black Adam Doomsday or any other character as strong or stronger look weaker by comparison. The very idea that he has to sundip and admitted that CM is his equal proves my point. There is not one writer of superman that has stated or shown in any comic that superman has dynamic strength. Superman has been shown plenty of times in his so-called " not holding back state " where he was still matched strength for strength by many characters.
Yes, he does have dynamic strength, and the comics have shown this.
Yes, he has made them look weaker when amped, which I said already.
Yes, writers have shown him having dynamic strength based on his emotional state.
Not plenty of times, no. And he has more wins in his "non-holding back" state than losses.
Originally posted by -Pr-Hulk has dynamic strength and his strength increases based on his emotional state, superman does NOT have a power set anywhere close to hulks.
Yes, he does have dynamic strength, and the comics have shown this.Yes, he has made them look weaker when amped, which I said already.
Yes, writers have shown him having dynamic strength based on his emotional state.
Not plenty of times, no. And he has more wins in his "non-holding back" state than losses.
There is not one writer in DC that will tell you superman emotional state can put him above CM or Black Adam. But there are writer who HAVE placed Black Adam Above superman.
Well of course, he's the hero, he better win more. Now if he was a bad guy, it would be the opposite.