Regular Thor and Human Torch destroying Mindless Ones Add Cyclops and Ironman to that.And this scan proves that Odin will ROFLSTOMP those Mindless Ones.
Obviously I still believe that Odin at his best can't disintegrate a HIGH END mindless one with a single blast. But why argue that anymore? I concede there to expedite time. You would come to a conclusion quicker if the argument is about an average Odin right?
Let's simply your argument.
You are saying that Odin can disintegrate those fools because he has done greater things. You believe that helping to destroy dead galaxies (which is just mostly phucking gases) with multiple blasts is greater. You believe that temp koing Galactus is greater when Thor in the same arc almost did the same thing. You believe defeating characters that have shown great power output is also greater (although power output isn't durability). You also believe that Odin can do it since he can hurt Umar (only because you believe he hurt greater beings, in which greater don't necessarily mean more durable) who in turn tanked the blast. This is super faulty. You act as if comics are static with no fluctuation and that Glads always hit with planet destroying force and that power output feats somehow equals durability feats.
Then you use pick and choose ABC logic. Serpent broke Cap's shield and Odin in the far past hit him miles away and thus Odin>>>>>>>>Cap's shield. You still don't see the faultiness of that do you? Do you think Thano's body is more durable than Cap's shield? Power output =/= durability. Character's fluctuate, especially characters who feed off others. Just because Thor tanked skyfather level beings and Surfer being able to hurt him with blasts doesn't mean Surfer has more power output than a skyfather. Just because Surtur destroyed a galaxy forging a sword doesn't mean he's operating at the level when he's fighting Thor or even Odin.
FYI,
Thanos has been koed by Thor (IG saga), damaged by a black hole, rocked by Thor again, koed by Squirrel Girl, rocked and bleed by PG Thor who has no strength feats above 2x Thor, beat up by the avengers, cut by Logan, etc. Thanos has good defenses and he uses shields. That's why he hasn't been koed or hit a lot. Mangog isn't a skyfather level being. He's weak as shit. Not more than high herald power output but high trans durability. One shotting Surfer is a high showing for Odin or a low showing for Surfer (choose). But most of that is irrelevant anyway in light of the above.
You don't know what trolling is do you? If someone is wrong doesn't mean they are trolling if they believe what they are saying and trying to support their stance. Ignorance and lack of correct thinking is not trolling. Trolling = on purpose shit. You should know better than that. With that said, you are wrong here.
Lastly, none of the feats for average Odin you named surpasses in damage power output what WBH did. Time is expeditiously expedient.
You keep making up phrases, yet the Mindless Ones that Hulk fought have literally no feats at all. No feats.
The ones that survived a neutron star that you keep referring to were damaged by Nova Prime level beings.
You've already said high end Odin can't. Good job changing your mind. Either way, average Odin doesn't even expend himself. But sure, let's ignore his many high end showings when the character doesn't even have that many showings to begin with.
Destroying a galaxy>>>destroying a planet.
Thor never almost KO'ed Galactus... not even close. Are you even listening? Galactus was completely engaged in TP and didn't miss a single beat in the TP fight. He even started to overwhelm Odin in TP right afterwards. That's not almost getting KO'ed.
So, following your logic, we're supposed to believe that all these characters are glass cannons? Serpent was getting stabbed in the face by a heavily armored Thor with the Odinsword and still managed to kill him. Galactus was shrugging off literal planets being thrown at him a few months later by Abstract level beings, Hela is a damned Death God, Surtur was standing point blank of galaxy destroying attacks when he forged Twilight, etc.
Now name me some Umar feats.
Characters fluctuate, just like the Mindless Ones do. One day they're "surviving Neutron stars" in the same issue they get damaged by Nova, to getting crushed by Human Torch, to getting destroyed by Hulk. Plus, how you can think surviving a neutron star is greater than an attack that destroys millions of stars is beyond me.
And stop bringing up Gladiator. Odin's lowest feat is one punching Ulik while severely weakened. Gladiator got beat by Cannonball.
The guy who broke Cap's shield with his bare hands is naturally far away from the power needed to take an attack needed to bust his shield. Odin being largely more powerful than the guy who pretty casually broke Cap's shield under the same writer hitting Serpent with a pretty big attack would naturally be nowhere near the power needed to break Cap's shield either. It's a two way street. Serpent is more durable for having taken that shot, and Odin is more powerful than the guy who can bust Cap's shield.
What are Cap's shields durability feats besides being more durable than Mindless Ones?
There you go comparing high end feats from vastly varying characters to a consistent character like Odin. Thor is not as consistent as Odin, and as a main hero, he's going to have highs and lows. Odin however, doesn't share those.
Surtur's only feats are fighting Odin and Thor though (and Ymir)... under the same writer. SO OF COURSE HE WON'T BE AT THAT LEVEL!
Thanos wasn't KO'ed by Thor. The only thing you added was the Squirrel Girl thing, and that was with a Thanos who had enough power to destroy the universe. So why that's being brought up is beyond me. The rest still doesn't make the Odin fight a low showing, though Bendis pushed it a lot. The Black Hole thing had Thanos hijacking a killing all the Skrulls in a ship. "Rocked by Thor" had him kill Thor immediately. Cut by Logan ended with Thanos smiling and turning Wolverine into rubber. The PG Thor only being 2x is stupid. The guy one shotted PG Drax in the same series.
Mangog's only feats are walking through everything Asgard had to offer and getting beat by Odin. Weak.
Yes, it can only be a high end showing or a low showing... from the guy who temp KO'ed his master. Jesus.
You cause shit in every thread worse than the Ownage Thread at its worse, everyone calls you a troll multiple times. But you're not a troll. Hell, you immediately followed it by trolling.
If I didn't like reporting you so much, I'd keep you on ignore. Your point here is that Hulk is billions of times more powerful than Odin.
That statement doesn't need any intelligent counterpoint to know how stupid it is.
You didn't even address half the feats, and shit on the ones you felt threatened by. Completely dropped your "Galactus has been hurt by heralds" stance, changed your "High end" Odin stance. Ignored the Mindless Ones getting destroyed by street levelers (because naturally a whole race of beings will fluctuate).
Oh, and did someone say that Galactus wasn't more durable than Umar because Thor "almost KO'ed him"? (please log in to view the image) (please log in to view the image) (please log in to view the image)
You did no such thing. Energy was released with the collision, so what? This wasn't some hocus pocus spell, it was sheer raw power released from the force of their two strikes.
I guess since World Breaker Hulk only did the damage he did when he collided with Red She Hulk, the feat is unusable either. Clearly some kind of chain reaction of their Gamma abilities affected the molecular structure of the Dark Dimension caused the destruction.
I can make up nonsense to troll too.
So what? We're talking about this specific Galactus, and you somehow mocked him for being hurt by Mjolnir.
Also, Odin empowered Mjolnir fyi. Easily with a portion of his might.
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I'd like to point out that Zelia attacked Odin right after his fight with Set in Asgard as that was their best shot. Odin was still a noob (Only regained his godly form), and had just fought Set. Not to mention she drained his power to.
Once he regained his might, he f*cking blinked the entire race away. And they weren't soft either, they went to Olympus and f*cked their shit up. Zeus is still pissed.
It should also be noted that Odin's counter-part in the Dark Gods was the solo reason his Universe was still stable and hadn't collapse into Entropic death. Once he teleported out, it ended, and Odin was at least his equal in power. Been a while but IIRC he fought him despite just returning from Death etc.
As much as I believe that RKT stomps the World Breaker out of Hulk, I'm sure we can pull "feats" or at least indications of RKT's "power tiering" w/o trying to lowball WBH's Dark Dimension "feat".
Yes, the Mindless One's at their best have low herald lvl durability (at least), yes Hulk disintegrated a TON of them with his impact. However, this does not show skyfather lvl power as the top end "feats" of Odin (that is w/o lowballing on the pro-WBH side) is far beyond that. And RKT is beyond even Odin.
Sorry I been busy for awhile. Let's keep it simple and coherent.
You claim that Odin (at best) can disintegrate a High End mindless one because of his feats against galaxies (dead gassy ones), the Serpent, etc.
Well my definition of a high end mindless one is one where they can tank cores of neutron stars, not ones where they get damaged by herald level beings. I admit that those mindless ones in the WB arc probably were not on that level (neutron star level). The reason I assumed this was because of how it was stated they were powerful enough to overcome Umar.
So I concede somewhat and say that Odin (at best) can indeed disintegrate a mindless that's much less than those that can withstand neutron stars.
So let's assume that the mindless ones in the arc were of average Savage Hulk durability. Can Odin still disintegrate one (at his best). Certainly! I see no problem believing he can disintegrate average Savage Hulk at his best. Can he (again at his best) disintegrate all of them with a single blast? Prehaps but it may take more than a single blast or a long continuous blast that will take some time.
Can Odin (at best) blast with the power that's over a billion times greater than a blast capable of disintegrating all the beings that were disintegrated in the arc (assuming average Hulk peers). I say no emphatically. Having the power to barely do something is the same as having a billion times more power to do that same something. The reason why this is relevant because anything less wouldn't affect WBH, due to WBH tanking more than a billion times more force than that which disintegrated all those beings.
In conclusion, I cannot see Odin even hurting a being that could withstand more than a billion times the power capable of disintegrating all the beings (average Savage Hulk peers) in the arc. Also I cannot see Odin surviving a physical beating by WBH.
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I would be curious to see if WBH could physically manhandle RKT. Where RKT is meriods of times greater then this version of hulk I dunno about a physical contest. Im sure he would do what Zeus did amp himself then wipe hulk up off the floor.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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Add Cyclops and Ironman to that.And this scan proves that Odin will ROFLSTOMP those Mindless Ones.
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