I think wielding two saber staffs would give him immense surface area and therefore excellent blast deflection skills, but even then butchering the 501st (and he may well have slaughtered the lot if not for the tentacle monster) is very impressive.
As far as Force powers go he's knocking down over a dozen clones with a Force push, I'd say in that respect he's rivaling Savage Opress.
And yeah mastering one saberstaff on its own is said to be difficult and dangerous in itself, wielding two at once is therefore an extraordinary feat, and he does it with exceptional dexterity and skill. I agree he'd defeat, Savage (also Canon Grievous), and probably pressure the top tiers like Windu, Kenobi, Dooku, Maul etc.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I think wielding two saber staffs would give him immense surface area and therefore excellent blast deflection skills, but even then butchering the 501st (and he may well have slaughtered the lot if not for the tentacle monster) is very impressive.As far as Force powers go he's knocking down over a dozen clones with a Force push, I'd say in that respect he's rivaling Savage Opress.
And yeah mastering one saberstaff on its own is said to be difficult and dangerous in itself, wielding two at once is therefore an extraordinary feat, and he does it with exceptional dexterity and skill. I agree he'd defeat, Savage (also Canon Grievous), and probably pressure the top tiers like Windu, Kenobi, Dooku, Maul etc.
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I'd actually be interested in a discussion of Krell's tactical ability.
Regardless, Krell's generally underrated. His mastery of lightsaber combat is pretty awesome. As Beni said, use of the double-bladed lightsaber alone is difficult and dangerous. Adding a second one on top of that and dual-wielding them is even more impressive. In my opinion, it marks him as one of the foremost masters of the double-bladed lightsaber.
I'd say his feat against the 501st is undervalued and overvalued. As has been stated in other threads, fighting clones isn't exactly an impossible feat, so the feat isn't amazing at face value. What makes it impressive to me is the ease with which he slaughters them. He seems to rather casually rebuke their efforts, tosses them around with the Force, and even outright disarms himself and still beats them with his bare hands.
And I don't think he went into the forest because he might be on the losing end. Regardless of whether or not you believe that he used the forest because he couldn't win elsewhere, it's not really something that would heavily mark as unfavorable to him. His use of the forest and Dun Moch indicate a good grasp of Sokan and psychological warfare, respectively.
I think Krell's an efficient and intelligent combatant. He definitely could pressure the top tiers, and his fighting style has the inherent advantage of being rarely seen and unpredictable.
He's overrated as ****. Wielding 2 saberstaff is hardly that impressive when the guy has 4 arms. Shaak Ti and Maul could wield a saberstaff and a regular blade at the same time and they only have 2 hands.
Mastering the use of 2 double-bladed saber shouldn't be any harder for someone with 4 hands than it is to master Jar'Kai for a 2 handed species.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanThe four hands give him more dexterity, but he doesn't compensate for the fact he's wielding two extra 1.5 meter blades. He's a big guy. That's a lot of surface area to account for, including the other saberstaff.
He's overrated as ****. Wielding 2 saberstaff is hardly that impressive when the guy has 4 arms. Shaak Ti and Maul could wield a saberstaff and a regular blade at the same time and they only have 2 hands.Mastering the use of 2 double-bladed saber shouldn't be any harder for someone with 4 hands than it is to master Jar'Kai for a 2 handed species.
I seriously don't understand you people. The whole point of Pong Krell's character is that he's meant to be a big deal. How so many managed to miss that is... staggering. If they wanted him to come off as average, he'd have come off as fugging average.
Tbfh, I think you're all wrong. We can't actually judge Krell's ability as a combatant at all, based on his singular showing.
He's supposedly a great tactician, though as Rex and Fives discuss, he has by far the highest casualty numbers of the war. You can't judge his tactical ability off that, because it's likely just that he doesn't care anywhere near as much about Clone lives as most Jedi do. How do you reconcile that with the fact he was so easily baited into an area that got him captured, stunned, and eventually killed?
In the same way, his Clone feat is impressive, but what part of it isn't something pre-prime Savage could not replicate? The Savage that fleed Dooku's ship ended up with similar telekinetic feats, he just lacked the tactical mindset to leave himself surrounded far longer than Krell did, hence getting shot.
So what's to say that Krell's rage towards the clones didn't drive him to limits beyond what he's usually capable of? Even if this is his normal level of power, it doesn't automatically place him in the league of the person who choked out Ventress and Dooku simultaneously in rage, simply because they have a shared feat.
He's just nowhere near fleshed out enough to properly examine. None of you have any way of proving that Krell is capable of more, or less, than the singular feat he has, and that singular feat doesn't put him on the level of the top tiers...