The Mjolnir replicas took time to be destroyed by the heat. The writer was an ass. Imagine Thor being able to survive, while Mangog and Mjolnir could not. Using that story to solidify a case against Mjolnir, or Mangog is faulty logic unless we dismiss their previous showings. If that be the case, let's go back to Orion in the box, Hulk and the anaconda, Superman and the tractor, Wonder Woman and the bullets, etc.
Yes, but my question was, how do you know Thor was in there for prolonged periods of time? How do you know it took time for the hammerst o be destroyed?
Because they were meant to last long enough to help him find Mjolnir, and get him out of the sun. Was there a citation of an actual stopwatch logging the time that he was in the sun? Of course not, but he continued his search and went through several of those replicas. There were quite a few of them, so we know that he could take the heat for a while.
Do you really want to continue onward with this one showing? So many characters have poor showings that it is easy to grab one in any given debate and pretend as if they didn't have better showings under different writers. Let's see how many pages it takes to change direction. This could become comical.
He only went in with one hammer at a time. Then had to leave after it melted.
What is comical, is your initial point which I asked about :
If there is a lake filled with strong acid, and I dived in every day until my clothes melted and my eyes began to burn.....I mean, sure, that's a great feat for my HF/medical care if I came back the next day to do the same thing, but it says nothing about how long I was in there for.
I agree, it IS a low showing. NEVER said it wasn't (this goes to you too, Shadowfyre, even though you jumped in willy-nilly lmao). I am merely addressing the 'logic' being used, that staying in there until his hammer (singular) melts and his eyes roast means that he's there for a prolonged period of time.
When it could have been a minute, 10 seconds, 5 seconds, hell, even 2 seconds or so.
We know, for example, that his new hammers are nothing like Mjolnir. Nowhere near durable - he kept breaking them. So we don't really know how durable they are, certainly not against heat.
I didn't once argue that Superman sits there and hv him. I didn't argue ANY strategy for either character.
Superman will reserve the right to sit there and hv Mangog IF he finds out that is the only way (he exhausted other means).
Superman will first attempt to ko Mangog with punches, etc. Maybe think about bfr or hv after that.
The core is hotter than the corona. The corona is about 2 million degrees. The core is about 15-27 million degrees. (up to 10x hotter). The surface is cold as hell though (6 thousand degrees).
Thor most likely flew through the corona (plunging into the surface) faster than it can affect him (like swinging your hand quickly through a flame.
Thor didn't reach the core. He was subjected to temperatures probably somewhere between 6k and 2 million degrees.
Classic characters kinda don't count anymore since current characters contradict them in several ways. Classic days are considered to be like pre-crisis days (writers had and used no actual science understanding and had characters do ridiculous inconsistent things).
One writer doesn't necessarily dictate the status of a character across the Marvel world. Plus as a statement it's not really feasible against actual feats. If a character for whichever reason calls Spider-Man the strongest (say a relative etc as they look up to him) would you take that as literally as you are this?
When people are narrating in that sense he isn't gonna go "My beloved son, besides from the Hulk, Dracula with Dual Adamantium Katanas and Thanos you are the strongest being in all the 10 realms". That wouldn't be something that someone who appreciates a person would say.
Could've swore you were hellbent on the corona being hotter a couple of weeks back as I stated that it was the core that was hotter? You're an ass. Deal with it.
Even if not for a prolonged period of time, 10 secs or less really sounds silly. The sun is humongous and he's literally looking for pieces of Mjolnir in a place whose volume is over a million times greater than earth's. It'd be basically useless to travel a few secs and then out.
He could also have been calling in hammers to him while still inside as soon as the one he is using became useless. We dont know for sure, but i'd lean more to prolonged than the abbreviated version u are proposing.
In one of the scans, we see some of the other hammers havent even completely melted from previous attempts, while he's back at it again searching. I'm sure a majority of them had decent staying power, enough for him to stay inside for a prolonged period of time. (please log in to view the image)(please log in to view the image)(please log in to view the image)
I mean it is Odin saying Thor is stronger than him though, and Thor is dying trying to dive into the sun. Seems a bit weird.
And even if the mightiest in 10 realms is hyperbole, the other part is still an admission seemingly.
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