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Cosmic Glaze (Surfer) vs Adamantium (Logan)

Surfers cosmic glaze body vs Wolverines bone, true adamantium..

Which one is the most durable between the two?

Against physical attack?

Then energy attack?


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Is this a joke? Power Cosmic body ftw. cool


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Wolverine has shanked Surfer before...and Zombie Hulk(Who is weaker than Ultimate Thing) bit off the their universe's Surfer's head off


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Surfers cosmic glaze body vs Wolverines bone, true adamantium..

Which one is the most durable between the two?

Against physical attack?

Then energy attack?

Unfortunately(meaning that I myself think it's stupid as Hell) adamantium is the stronger of the two substances. This has been made clear by the fact that guys like God-Cable and Firelord have managed to break Surfer's board(which is at least a couple of inches thick), while NO ONE'S been able to do anything similar to true adamantium.


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Unfortunately(meaning that I myself think it's stupid as Hell) adamantium is the stronger of the two substances. This has been made clear by the fact that guys like God-Cable and Firelord have managed to break Surfer's board(which is at least a couple of inches thick), while NO ONE'S been able to do anything similar to true adamantium.


I'm glad someone agrees with me on this. It's kinda rediculous that they can break the Power Cosmic board, but not the earthly metal. roll eyes (sarcastic) If you had a shield made of adamantium or one made of Surfer's skin, which would you use?


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I'm glad someone agrees with me on this. It's kinda rediculous that they can break the Power Cosmic board, but not the earthly metal. roll eyes (sarcastic) If you had a shield made of adamantium or one made of Surfer's skin, which would you use?
I'd rather use Surfer's dead body. whistle


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Didnt Thor crush adamantium before with his bare hands? Dont know the purity of that adamantium dough, doubt it was high grade..
I myself thinks high grade adamantium is by far more durable, just wanted some opinions from this in this forum..


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I'm glad someone agrees with me on this. It's kinda rediculous that they can break the Power Cosmic board, but not the earthly metal. roll eyes (sarcastic) If you had a shield made of adamantium or one made of Surfer's skin, which would you use?

Well that would depend on what I was going up against. To my knowledge, no one's ever been able to mess with Surfer with magnitism or anti metal just because of his silvery skin(and until I see an instance of someone managing to do that, I'm not convinced that they can seeing as how it originates from Galactus), but adamantium HAS shown a vulnerability to those sources. So when opposed by magnetism or anti metal Surfer's glaze is the obvious choice of the two, with anything else I'd have to go with adamantium.

As for WHY adamantium seems to be so much more effective than damn near anything else in the universe, I have a theory on it. Have you ever noticed just how many of the big guns in the universe originate from Earth? Think about it... Quasar, Adam Warlock, Thor, Dr Strange and God only knows how many others are all from one planet. Even many of the universe's REALLY big guns like Molecule Man, Phoenix, Jim Jaspers, and Havok have all been born here. Earth seems to be a magnet for some of the best and brightest in the universe no matter what field your talking about. Even though the general population of Earth pretty much pales in comparison in regards to the power and resources of most alien cultures, it also has a greater concentration of super beings than just about ANYWHERE.

Compare the likes of the Kree and the Skrull to the average citizen of Earth. Both alien species are stronger, faster, and more technologically advanced than any of the "normal" people that inhabit the planet. Now let's think about the super beings of each species. Well the Kree have Ronan and the Skrull have the Super Skrull, but that's pretty much it. We have a crapload of people from this planet who are more powerful than both of those guys put together. Hell if everyone on Earth banded together the way the Kree and Skrull do, Earth would rule the entire universe withing a year at the most.

It KINDA makes sense(or at least seems possible) that if there where what could be considered the single strongest metal in the universe it would originate from here because of the genetic tampering done by the Celestials. Maybe the Celestials implanted the knowledge/inspiration of the formula for adamantium creation somewhere deep within human kinds DNA just waiting for humans to stumble across the secret(it WAS discovered by accident while trying to create something else).


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Originally posted by Roldz
Didnt Thor crush adamantium before with his bare hands? Dont know the purity of that adamantium dough, doubt it was high grade..
I myself thinks high grade adamantium is by far more durable, just wanted some opinions from this in this forum..


I think that was the Hulk when he grabbed an adamantium statue and threw it at Thor. I think theres a scan of it in the Hulks respect thread.


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Well that would depend on what I was going up against. To my knowledge, no one's ever been able to mess with Surfer with magnitism or anti metal just because of his silvery skin(and until I see an instance of someone managing to do that, I'm not convinced that they can seeing as how it originates from Galactus), but adamantium HAS shown a vulnerability to those sources. So when opposed by magnetism or anti metal Surfer's glaze is the obvious choice of the two, with anything else I'd have to go with adamantium.

As for WHY adamantium seems to be so much more effective than damn near anything else in the universe, I have a theory on it. Have you ever noticed just how many of the big guns in the universe originate from Earth? Think about it... Quasar, Adam Warlock, Thor, Dr Strange and God only knows how many others are all from one planet. Even many of the universe's REALLY big guns like Molecule Man, Phoenix, Jim Jaspers, and Havok have all been born here. Earth seems to be a magnet for some of the best and brightest in the universe no matter what field your talking about. Even though the general population of Earth pretty much pales in comparison in regards to the power and resources of most alien cultures, it also has a greater concentration of super beings than just about ANYWHERE.

Compare the likes of the Kree and the Skrull to the average citizen of Earth. Both alien species are stronger, faster, and more technologically advanced than any of the "normal" people that inhabit the planet. Now let's think about the super beings of each species. Well the Kree have Ronan and the Skrull have the Super Skrull, but that's pretty much it. We have a crapload of people from this planet who are more powerful than both of those guys put together. Hell if everyone on Earth banded together the way the Kree and Skrull do, Earth would rule the entire universe withing a year at the most.

It KINDA makes sense(or at least seems possible) that if there where what could be considered the single strongest metal in the universe it would originate from here because of the genetic tampering done by the Celestials. Maybe the Celestials implanted the knowledge/inspiration of the formula for adamantium creation somewhere deep within human kinds DNA just waiting for humans to stumble across the secret(it WAS discovered by accident while trying to create something else).


Very interesting theory. And scarily logical. Thinking about it, it explains so much about earth and our superpowered beings.


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Yeah, but in the DC universe people from earth are even more kickass and they don't have shinny metals.


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Originally posted by darthgoober
(it WAS discovered by accident while trying to create something else).


Very good theory, and, as trickster said, very logical.

thumb up I applaud you.

And just wanted to point out that adamantium was created in the failed attempt to recreate of Captain America's shield - which itself was an accident.


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(it WAS discovered by accident while trying to create something else).
Most inventions are made that way, like Kevlar body armor for instance...comparable, no?..... Also the Frisbee, the Microwave, just to name a few more. wink


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Most inventions are made that way, like Kevlar body armor for instance...comparable, no?..... Also the Frisbee, the Microwave, just to name a few more. wink

And how do we know that ALL those inventions discovered by accident weren't given to us by the Celestials.... stick out tongue


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And how do we know that ALL those inventions discovered by accident weren't given to us by the Celestials.... stick out tongue


Because...

We invented the celestials.

By accident!

Oh, snap! I just proved that the Marvel Universe 616 is the universe we're ACTUALLY living in!

Friggin Doctor Strange is just wiping our minds of the actual super hero/villain battles, and the inspiration for comic books is just residual....


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surfer skin is stronger when it comes to molecular attacks, cosmic and such.
adimantium for pure strength

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Unfortunately(meaning that I myself think it's stupid as Hell) adamantium is the stronger of the two substances. This has been made clear by the fact that guys like God-Cable and Firelord have managed to break Surfer's board(which is at least a couple of inches thick), while NO ONE'S been able to do anything similar to true adamantium.
The difference here though, is that we have never seen Firelord go full bore against Wolverine, or, that we have never seen GL Cable try and snap Wolverine.

What we do have though, is Sy'm snap Wolverine's claws. King Thor making his bones look like rubber with an eye blast.

The difference between Surfer and Wolverine, is that, Surfer takes attacks by the big boys. There should be no comparison between the two.
Fact of the matter is, that Surfer's board can be remade... when something goes wrong with one of Wolvey's claws, then he's f*cked.

Also, Surfer takes attacks that would destroy planets. Wolverine takes things like nukes, and plane crashes. As soon as he got hit with an Odin level being, he was nothing, his duribility was nothing, his bones were nothing.
Surfer has taken attacks by Galactus quite a few times, and almost every time, he has gotten up with no effect.

Can we compare the attacks?

Just because Wolverine has "never" had his bones smashed, doesn't mean anything. When you look at what he has taken, and then compare it to Surfer's damage... it really makes no sense.
You're telling me a nuke didn't damage his bones, nor did Spider-Man, or Ba'al?
Get outta here, he must be a god!

Wolverine's claws may very well be more durible, but the difference is, that Surfer has taken heavier attacks by ten fold more than Wolverine.


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I'd rather use Surfer's dead body. whistle


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The difference here though, is that we have never seen Firelord go full bore against Wolverine, or, that we have never seen GL Cable try and snap Wolverine.

What we do have though, is Sy'm snap Wolverine's claws. King Thor making his bones look like rubber with an eye blast.

The difference between Surfer and Wolverine, is that, Surfer takes attacks by the big boys. There should be no comparison between the two.
Fact of the matter is, that Surfer's board can be remade... when something goes wrong with one of Wolvey's claws, then he's f*cked.

Also, Surfer takes attacks that would destroy planets. Wolverine takes things like nukes, and plane crashes. As soon as he got hit with an Odin level being, he was nothing, his duribility was nothing, his bones were nothing.
Surfer has taken attacks by Galactus quite a few times, and almost every time, he has gotten up with no effect.

Can we compare the attacks?

Just because Wolverine has "never" had his bones smashed, doesn't mean anything. When you look at what he has taken, and then compare it to Surfer's damage... it really makes no sense.
You're telling me a nuke didn't damage his bones, nor did Spider-Man, or Ba'al?
Get outta here, he must be a god!

Wolverine's claws may very well be more durible, but the difference is, that Surfer has taken heavier attacks by ten fold more than Wolverine.
This is an excellent point. Put Wolverine up against Tenebrous and Aegis and let us see how his adamantium holds up.

Heck, I'd put Adamantium below Uru, but that's just me.

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