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Kang the Conqueror vs Dr Doom

1 hour prep.

No magic.

Who wins?


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Hard to say. Doom is good, but Kang's one of the few people who could match him and beat him.


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Kang has better tech but Doom seems smarter. However I don't think Doom could beat Kang easily if Kang knew Doom was coming for him.


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neither of them can win because their is a distnct possibility that they are either closely related.... or even the same person. meaning that they are interdependant on one another for survivial thus i say stalemate


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Doom wins this. A lot of Kang's tech he merely stole in the future, while Doom created everything he has. Now some people would say Kang has a advantage over Doom because his tech is from the future while Doom's is current. But I disagree. If Doom created his own stuff, which is unarguably way ahead of its time, and he doesnt share his secrets like Iron Man does, then Doom's tech should be obsolete for a very long time as no one else can pattern their gear after it accurately. But yeah Doom the person is a lot smarter, and wouldnt need the prep time as Im sure he already has a plan set up for Kang after their Infinity fight.

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I think that without magic, Doom loses his most important edge.

Doom himself stated that Kang has incredible technology and he is much more of a warrior. Doom's prep is amazing but Kang is no fool in feats: He has killed everyone of his alternate selves, conquered 616 Earth without using his future army -just his ship- while facing the Avengers and the Master of the Universe who prepped against him, and has created several time-traveling technologies including a device that can resurrect him. He is also a master planner -just look at all the manipulations done by Immortus, which was just a future Kang up to his last appearance in Avengers forever-.

Another thing to consider is that Kang always holds back, for sheer pride and for the thrill of the hunt; considering his history with Doom he could take off the kiddie gloves and go all out, and no plot device will be there to tip the scales in Doom's favor this time.


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Originally posted by Bentley I think that without magic, Doom loses his most important edge.

Doom himself stated that Kang has incredible technology and he is much more of a warrior. Doom's prep is amazing but Kang is no fool in feats: He has killed everyone of his alternate selves, conquered 616 Earth without using his future army -just his ship- while facing the Avengers and the Master of the Universe who prepped against him, and has created several time-traveling technologies including a device that can resurrect him. He is also a master planner -just look at all the manipulations done by Immortus, which was just a future Kang up to his last appearance in Avengers forever-.

Another thing to consider is that Kang always holds back, for sheer pride and for the thrill of the hunt; considering his history with Doom he could take off the kiddie gloves and go all out, and no plot device will be there to tip the scales in Doom's favor this time.
Doom has take over 616-Earth three times. One time, he gave control back to 616-Earth because he got bored and proved how well he could run it as long as he had their obedience. It's easy to forget what Kang has actually done. He has performed impressive feats, Kang Dynasty is a great read. I still prefer Emperor Doom though. Doom's feats are more impressive. Most of which involve no magic at all and very little prep time.

Doom has also killed Kang. Twice. Seriously. In Secret Wars and in Infinity War. No magic again.

Doom 7/10.


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While Doom has great feats, he has achieved his greatest feats through plot devices, Kang in the other hand uses his own resources. Of course, if Kang plays fair like he is used to, he is likely to lose, going all out he won't.

When you say that Doom killed Kang twice you probably mean the alternate Doom that made Ultron kill (an alternate) Kang and the time Doom cheap-shotted Kang after he went one on one against Magus. The battles didn't show prep time neither.

We know that people like Doom better than Kang, so in the big events they use PIS to make him win. In a no-PIS scenario, like in this forum, the result would be entirely different.


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They've fought before, I forget who won


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I haven't read any confrontation appart from the two mentioned above.


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[QUOTE=11101573]Originally posted by Bentley
While Doom has great feats, he has achieved his greatest feats through plot devices, Kang in the other hand uses his own resources. Of course, if Kang plays fair like he is used to, he is likely to lose, going all out he won't.
When you say that Doom killed Kang twice you probably mean the alternate Doom that made Ultron kill (an alternate) Kang and the time Doom cheap-shotted Kang after he went one on one against Magus. The battles didn't show prep time neither.
[/quote/]There is no alternate Doom. Secret Wars Doom is 616-Doom. Doom prepped Ultron to kill Kang who had the villains on his side. Kang went down and left himself vulnerable to Doom in Infinity War, his fault for leaving himself open as both were plotting to kill each other.

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We know that people like Doom better than Kang, so in the big events they use PIS to make him win. In a no-PIS scenario, like in this forum, the result would be entirely different.
What PIS are you citing that Doom, but not Kang, benefits from? And in a straight up fight, Doom's armor is greater than Kang's by far.


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Kang has conquered and rules nearly 2000 entire alternate Universes.

Kang achieved this with his own resources,
while Doom's top feats are shrouded in stipulations.

Kang (not holding back) wins there.
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Originally posted by Bentley

While Doom has great feats,
he has achieved his greatest feats through plot devices,
Kang in the other hand uses his own resources.

When you say that Doom killed Kang twice
you probably mean the alternate Doom that made Ultron kill (an alternate) Kang and the time Doom cheap-shotted Kang after he went one on one against Magus. The battles didn't show prep time neither.

We know that people like Doom better than Kang, so in the big events they use PIS to make him win.

In a no-PIS scenario,
like in this forum, the result would be entirely different.

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Concerning all here, imo, Reed is the man. smile

Reed, has done it all.


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Doom > Reed


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kang > doom


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Doom > Kang


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nope.


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yup.


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nope x2.

kang is like doom, but just better. like a tech 9 being compared to one with an extended clip. kang is pretty similar to doom, just better at what he......i mean they, do.


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