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Lord Mar-Vell vs Darkseid

Might be too early for it, as he doesn't have that many feats, but Thanos Imperative 4 gave a pretty good idea.

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Mar-vell took way too much time to beat Nova, DS is beyond him.

But mostly we have no serious point of comparision between the two.


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Mar-vell took way too much time to beat Nova, DS is beyond him.

But mostly we have no serious point of comparision between the two.
He did one-shot the SS and he was taking his time with nova to get information from him as he torn through nova's mental defenses and mindraped him. Nova did not prolong that fight because of any merit of his own, Mar-Vell toyed with him.

I'm not sure what the OE would do to him as he is an immortal avatar of life connedcted to the many angled ones. In his reality, he is both relevant to the metaphysical workings of the universe and unkillable due to the extinction of death. I think in a neutral universe he shouldn't be immune to death but would remain an avatar of life, which might protect him from the OE.

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Ok, I just wanted to hear from someone else that Mar-vell was toying with Richard shifty

Didn't he just destroyed Surfer's board and then dissapeared. I still would have trouble rating him against Darkseid, from what we know they both have powerful energy attacks and psychic powers. I still need more showings to be sure.


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^^^ Maybe because Nova is a bit more powerful then some people give him credit for wink

At any rate anybody that can smack Nova and Surfer around that easily has to be high trans at LEAST.

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I agree it's still a little early.

We do know he can cast spells from across dimensions, as he had already left to his native universe to chase after thanos when he destroyed his sanctuary. Not sure if the Fault is a requirement for this though.

I believe he planted something inside Nova when he attacked him off panel making him scream like a little girl.

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I think he was interrupted from whatever he was getting ready to do to Nova when Drax died. The scene most likely was running concurrently with what was going on in the cancerverse.

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I think he was interrupted from whatever he was getting ready to do to Nova when Drax died. The scene most likely was running concurrently with what was going on in the cancerverse.
Just reread the scene. I think you're right.

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That's a good observation. Even though he was outside of the cancerverse his power level remained high. I wonder if he's even more potent inside of the cancerverse?

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Probably is. Still, he destroyed adam magus with a gesture and Magus was already trans level at least.

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This was an awesome issue. I've read the damn thing like 6 times lol. You said that you weren't too crazy about it no?

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Probably is. Still, he destroyed adam magus with a gesture and Magus was already trans level at least.
Forgot about that. So there's that, he tore through Richard's shields with a punch, toyed with his psionic shields like nothing and swatted Norrin aside.

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I'm going to use Darkseid from Countdown to Infinite Crisis because you didn't say i couldn't.
That version of DS played really proficient chess, so he must be good at Monopoly. Using logic (and Thanos), you can buy Reading Railroad in Monopoly. Reading is in Pennslyvania. PA is not far from Los Angeles. LA is where Bob Kane died. Bob Kane created Batman--------BATKICK! FTW!!!


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^^^ laughing out loud ABC... People put Magus on par with Thanos for the most part right? So this phucker E-Vell must be skyfather level.

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This was an awesome issue. I've read the damn thing like 6 times lol. You said that you weren't too crazy about it no?
Are you kidding me? I'm loving the imperative. GoG was excellent as well. Nova's golden phase was during the annihilation and conquest tie-ins, brilliant material, but his most recent series was still ok.

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People put Magus on par with Thanos for the most part right? So this phucker E-Vell must be skyfather level.


Yes, thinking about it, he probably is.

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Are you kidding me? I'm loving the imperative. GoG was excellent as well. Nova's golden phase was during the annihilation and conquest tie-ins, brilliant material, but his most recent series was still ok.
No I meant this particular issue. I thought you had mentioned that it was just meh to you.

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Nevermind, that was Galan that said that.

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He did one-shot the SS
I don't know what your definition of one-shot is, but all Marv's blast did was knock Surfer to the ground -- it caused him no real damage whatsoever. That's hardly enough to put him on Darkseid's level.

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Nevermind, that was Galan that said that.
I thought the issue was ok, but it wasn't something that would be enjoyable for me to read numerous times.


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I don't know what your definition of one-shot is, but all Marv's blast did was knock Surfer to the ground -- it caused him no real damage whatsoever. That's hardly enough to put him on Darkseid's level.

I thought the issue was ok, but it wasn't something that would be enjoyable for me to read numerous times.
It destroyed the board and more importantly put him out of comission for the duration of the fight, that's one-shoting for the purposes of the battle.

The idea that he is on par with DS or higher isn't solely based on his showing against surfer either.

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