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No Mjolnir at all. Maybe I'm starting to underrate Thor in general lately in response to the rut he's been in, but I think Hollywood would beat that ass in a brawl.


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Hollywood 10/10.


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You trolling me or not?


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Not really. Hollywood tanked a point-blank solar system destroying blast and defeated Starhawk with physical power. Unarmed Thor would've problems against regular Simon.


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Which incarnation of Starhawk did he defeat? It's been a while since I've read the Galactic Guardians and Guardians of the Universe.

Assuming it's not a powered up version, Thor has greater feats than all of those you listed. That being said, Hollywood would most likely beat a day to day Thor. Course, if you want to use who has the biggest feats card, there's a very high probability you'll lose.


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Not really. Hollywood tanked a point-blank solar system destroying blast and defeated Starhawk with physical power. Unarmed Thor would've problems against regular Simon.


Definitely agree with that, but yeah Thor would eventually beat Wonderman Simon.


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Which incarnation of Starhawk did he defeat? It's been a while since I've read the Galactic Guardians and Guardians of the Universe.

Assuming it's not a powered up version, Thor has greater feats than all of those you listed. That being said, Hollywood would most likely beat a day to day Thor. Course, if you want to use who has the biggest feats card, there's a very high probability you'll lose.



Starhawk after he regained his powers after Aleta beat him in the Starhawk mantle and just before he fought the Keeper with the Quantum Bands. I'll shuffle through the Guardians issues, but his conclusive win against SH and his tanking of that bomb I mentioned and Wonderman's past feats make him quite the physical powerhouse imo.


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Stop saying IMO!

Have a backbone ye coward! stick out tongue

Hollywood hasn't seen that much action, no reason to assume beating Starhawk or the Solar System blast tanking isn't a normal operating level for him.


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Starhawk after he regained his powers after Aleta beat him in the Starhawk mantle and just before he fought the Keeper with the Quantum Bands. I'll shuffle through the Guardians issues, but his conclusive win against SH and his tanking of that bomb I mentioned and Wonderman's past feats make him quite the physical powerhouse imo.


So he was at non amped levels? During an annual crossover, Thor stalemated and IIRC was edging out Starhawk in a physical contest. Or maybe it was Dargo Ktor. Can't remember for sure.

Hollywood is a physical powerhouse. I'm not debating that.


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Which incarnation of Starhawk did he defeat? It's been a while since I've read the Galactic Guardians and Guardians of the Universe.

Assuming it's not a powered up version, Thor has greater feats than all of those you listed. That being said, Hollywood would most likely beat a day to day Thor. Course, if you want to use who has the biggest feats card, there's a very high probability you'll lose.
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Thor's h2h feats aren't that great in average methinks.


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Aye I agree, despite his years of experience that there are a good number of high heralds I would put over him in kickboxing skills. lol.

His overuse of Mjolnir has hurt him in that regard probably.


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Thor's h2h feats aren't that great in average methinks.


Thor has had many appearances under the pen of countless writers. It's hard to establish a real average but on a day to day to basis, his treated as a Class 100 brick who can toss around lightning.


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No one doubts his strength.

But he gets tagged far too much for my liking in H2H. He's like Kakashi from Naruto, always lauded for supposedly great h2h skill but looks ordinary in h2h often.

I'm a bigger Thor fan than a Supes fan, but Clark is clearly a more skilled striker.


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Thor has had many appearances under the pen of countless writers. It's hard to establish a real average but on a day to day to basis, his treated as a Class 100 brick who can toss around lightning.



I understand the very problem, but there are few Marvel bricks who could really take it with Thor in h2h; Hollywood is in that short list.


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If you say so. I have no problem with Hollywood beating a day to day Thor.

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No one doubts his strength.

But he gets tagged far too much for my liking in H2H. He's like Kakashi from Naruto, always lauded for supposedly great h2h skill but looks ordinary in h2h often.

I'm a bigger Thor fan than a Supes fan, but Clark is clearly a more skilled striker.


Tagged? His a Class 100 brick, of course his going to get tagged almost all the time. If he starts dodging every hit, his durability will take a dive. It's just how comics work. We've seen that when Thor needs to his agile and is capable of dodging hits. He just doesn't on a regular basis.

I'm not sure what you mean by striker. You won't see Thor using pressure points or anything as his a brawler, but his style is clearly effective when it needs to be.


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He's not a Classic Juggernaut type of tank though. When he fights other bricks its not as if he wants to get hit or finds it amusing like Marko would. By being tagged too much, I mean that if Hulk and Thor just started randomly fightin h2h, my expectation is that they will exchange a more or less even number of blows. This is wrong, Thor should be skilled enough to land more hits without getting hit back just as much. Or, maybe I simply underestimate Hulk's actual fighting level. Dunno.

By striker, I mean if Superman and Thor were ordered to go twelve rounds of kickboxing with no powers at all and things like reflexes and handspeed being equalized, Supes would win a decision.

None of that gay pressure point shit.


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He's not a Classic Juggernaut type of tank though. When he fights other bricks its not as if he wants to get hit or finds it amusing like Marko would. By being tagged too much, I mean that if Hulk and Thor just started randomly fightin h2h, my expectation is that they will exchange a more or less even number of blows. This is wrong, Thor should be skilled enough to land more hits without getting hit back just as much. Or, maybe I simply underestimate Hulk's actual fighting level. Dunno.

By striker, I mean if Superman and Thor were ordered to go twelve rounds of kickboxing with no powers at all and things like reflexes and handspeed being equalized, Supes would win a decision.

None of that gay pressure point shit.


But his still a tank. His going to withstand most attacks head on. That just comes with the high durability territory. Actually it's been shown more than once that Thor allows himself to get hit. At the very least to gauge a new opponent's level of power. He tanks hits from Marko or the Hulk because his an Asgardian brawler. He likes to fight. We've seen that Thor can easily dodge Hulk's attacks and outmaneuver him when there is something serious at stake. Or the Juggernaut's when his pissed.

A decision? You mean the fight? I disagree with that.


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Normal Wonderman would win this, So I'm gonna go with Hollywood.

Oh yeah, you heard me.


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