in the way the fight SHOULD be? he should give a fight and win some. but the way it WILL be in the comics? omega red gets destroyed because its "Girl power" AKA "120 lbs chicks must beat the shit out of muscular guys or its sexism" VS toxic musculinity + evil white man+ blonde which means aggressively white = must get beat up badly and kicked in the nutts by the woman at the end of the fight while lying down all bloody. modern political comics are the best arent they.
Last edited by Dareangel on Dec 29th, 2020 at 01:08 PM
in case you didnt notice, i was refering to an overall pattern, and not simply how this fight will go. the pattern is always the 120 lbs chick beats the buffed guy with the SUPER HUMAN strength, regardless of how strong he is and if he is suppose to be more powerful, because girl power and toxic musculinity. the showing of the 120 lbs chick beating the crap out of some huge buffed guy PHYSICALLY and in many casses stomping on his balls, is very comon and the norm in comics this days. you know it, everybody know it, so please, save me playing the devils advocate. it makes eyes roll.
come on man, you are reading the same comics we all read. how often do we get the silly "girl power" moments where the 120 lbs chick beating and humiliating the toxic muscular guy while giving him a "i am no ones girl" speech? how about almost every single damn time some model chick is going up against a big muscular man? come on my man, do i really need to post endless amounts of scans? we all read comics and know what am i talking about.
Last edited by Dareangel on Dec 30th, 2020 at 05:53 PM
Well, yeah, that's why I'm disagreeing: I read comics too. If they both have super powers, their body weight doesn't typically matter. That only leaves your whole "chicks beating way more powerful dudes with girl powah!" statement. You claim it always happens, but I rarely see it. Certainly not enough for "endless amounts of scans" of it, although feel free to post them.
If you're talking about the battle waif trope in tv/movies, where some regular Charlize Theron type sends people flying with a move straight out of a women's self defense workshop, sure, that's ridiculous. But so is the male secret agent beating 10 trained dudes at once. Something like Emma Frost and Shadowcat beating Sebastion Shaw isn't silly though, even if the story was dumb. They don't need muscles since they have superpowers...
Bad writing exists, but it doesn't mean swing the other way and get upset any time a woman wins a fight against a man.
Last edited by StyleTime on Dec 31st, 2020 at 02:40 AM
really? in that case, would you be kind and provide me with scans of super heroes, who have the powers to at least be able to win, being able to defeat the "120 lbs chick" type?
i am not saying that i dont like it when the "120 lbs chick" being able to physically destroy your typical "alpha musculinity" type of guy, just because it happens, i just say it happens almost every single time when those 2 types collide.
Last edited by Dareangel on Dec 31st, 2020 at 12:28 PM
hulk vs any female? can you be more specific and point out a specific fight?
superman vs supergirl? and how many cases of superman getting destroyed we got over that one? most iconic is superman getting literally broken by wonder woman. and is that all?
We also have DCeased Superman tearing WW a new one, even when she prepped for him.
As I said, first ones that came to mind. Doesn't change that Superman with one hand was choking Supergirl out. - and this was a couple months ago.
How many instances do you want?? You said 'almost every time'. I say that's just wrong. But sure, challenge me at least. Give me parameters - limit it to just Marvel, the last 10 years, street/herald level, whatever.
True. I forgot he was the one raising hell about Beast secretly being superpowerful, and us not respecting his powah!'
How about teams of them?
Stryfe smashed a whole coalition of various X-Force folks, with multiple women. Psylocke, Storm, Domino, Boom Boom, Hope, and their male teammates all got subdued pretty handily. Would have gotten Spiral too, had she not teleported away. Even after the surprise TP stab from Cable and Spiral, Stryfe still had them dead to rights. (Not all depicted in these shots, but they were present and shown in other panels/pages.) https://postimg.cc/yDZp92MS https://postimg.cc/LnRjvwg1 https://postimg.cc/3dBmq12b
William Stryker smashed Monet, Domino, Lady Deathstrike, along with their teammates here. https://postimg.cc/t78hP7p2
Even when they beat him later, it took them enlisting a squad like this. And they still might have lost had it not been for hax-y people like Sauron. (And he still didn't "die". Just turned into a more powerful evil spirit lol.) https://postimg.cc/5QQLTWqB
And as DarkSaint asked, are there any stipulations here? 1 on 1? A certain time period? Mr X vs Black Widow? Gorgon vs Wolverine/Elektra? Those count?
It's definitely awkward he's made our win condition "show me chicks getting beat up." lol.
I actually think a better question is what are these unfair, "girl powah!" moments? I see people say it a lot, but I don't really witness it much. Just feels like some folks go crazy when a girl wins a fight, and blame the "girl powah!" boogeyman.
Last edited by StyleTime on Jan 1st, 2021 at 03:35 PM
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