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Jynocidus
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If Marvel depicted 'Heaven...'

Where do you think the realm/dimension would be classified?

I'm thinking...somewhere around the line of the crimson cosmos, or something similar to Shuma Goraths dimension. That way, it could still be invoked by like...GR?

Or maybe Marvels outer realms portray it already?

I'm just wondering. To my knowledge, I haven't seen Marvel play TOO MUCH into this concept. I just wanted to see what others may have to say about it.


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The F4 have been to "heaven" before.


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Do you mean when they went outside of the MU and talked to God The Artist, or do you mean...a Heaven 'inside of Marvels Continuity?'

I'm asking because, if there is a Heaven inside of continuity then that means it could be a realm which was ultimately created....but it wouldn't be perceived in the same manner as religious people seeing the holy kingdom. Heaven could be the opposite of a demons realm, and people don't mind invoking its name because the entity isn't terrible like Shuma for example.


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Just like Hell, there a several "heaven" dimensions like Valhalla and the Elysium Fields, and unnamed general "heavens" that show up from time to time.


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I'm saying though, where would the Judeo Christian God be classified? Like...could LT declare these 'Heaven' realms unnecessary with one of his faces and intervene if necessary, same as he did with like Zom?


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Ghost Rider has talked to that god and stuff and a comic dealt with an attack on Heaven irrc. Although I heard all that is getting retconed


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I'm asking because I've seen scans of characters saying there is only one creator, and his only power is love. So I'm wondering if the J-C God is less than LT, but not as dangerous to call upon as say Shuma Gorath. Or is he even like Cyttorak, maybe? The Octessence reminds me of the 7 arch angels and lucifer in concept (somewhat, not entirely), where Cytorrak is like Lucifer having the most power? Something along those lines...


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I'm saying though, where would the Judeo Christian God be classified?
You mean the guy from the storybook? He'd have a long wispy beard, lots of muscles, and there would be clouds... A BUNCH of clouds.

IMO.

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Okay...I'm going to ask this straight up. Is it okay to think that in Marvel, the Judeo Christian God is around Shumra Gorath or Cytorraks level of being invoked or otherwise?


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He is either a random Odin level Skyfather, or he is the One-Above-All.


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Originally posted by Jynocidus
Okay...I'm going to ask this straight up. Is it okay to think that in Marvel, the Judeo Christian God is around Shumra Gorath or Cytorraks level of being invoked or otherwise?
No, because Christian God = Satan/Mephisto in status, because Shumra/Cytorrak are above them (status).
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He is either a random Odin level Skyfather, or he is the One-Above-All.
Why did you come up w/ the conclusion of "One-Above"All"? It could be Buddha, you know wink


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No, because Christian God = Satan/Mephisto in status, because Shumra/Cytorrak are above them (status).
Why did you come up w/ the conclusion of "One-Above"All"? It could be Buddha, you know wink


We've seen Buddha chilling with the council of Godheads before. We haven't seen Christian God hanging with those boys. cool


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We've seen Buddha chilling with the council of Godheads before. We haven't seen Christian God hanging with those boys. cool
He ain't cool enough and... happy

Are you sure its Buddha or one of them Hindi gods, who resemble Buddha?


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Originally posted by Jynocidus
Okay...I'm going to ask this straight up. Is it okay to think that in Marvel, the Judeo Christian God is around Shumra Gorath or Cytorraks level of being invoked or otherwise?


It's not ok to assume anything. We don't have a real depiction of it in Marvel.


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He ain't cool enough and... happy

Are you sure its Buddha or one of them Hindi gods, who resemble Buddha?


Yeah but none of the Hindu goods look like Buddha in Marvel, and the Hindu godhead Brahma was there as well, so it would have to be Buddha.


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Yeah but none of the Hindu goods look like Buddha in Marvel, and the Hindu godhead Brahma was there as well, so it would have to be Buddha.
Can you direct me which comic you view this from?


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Can you direct me which comic you view this from?


Thor 300


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There are some other Skyfather meetings he might be in, but that is the only one I can remember off the top of my head because it happens in issue 300.


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