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Ethnic aliens

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/010...rmen-Color.html

An article about non-white krptonians. I personally think its a good thing to have ethnic diverse alien races. I used to find its strange that most humanoid alien races where white. Like one of the actors in heroes stated it would be absurd to make all the heroes white and the characters should reflect the real world.

No doubt flaming will commence but this is not why I started this thread


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Makes sense to me. Unless there's a very good reason that the aliens would all be one race they should show up in different colors. Even shapeshifting Martians ended up with different races.

It's fairly clear, however, that aliens in comics are not all white.


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i honestly never even cared. the only kryptonians that matter are superman, supergirl, powergirl, prime, and kc superman, and i guess the deceased con-el also.

and guess what they are all white stick out tongue


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It's fairly clear, however, that aliens in comics are not all white.


Not sure how this point is relevant. This is why I tried to emphasis humanoid aliens. Some aliens are green with pointy ears or have blue skin but when you have aliens that look like earthlings they tend to be white eg Krees have white and blue but no blacks.

For example when I was reading marvel universe they listed out all the alien races, there were loads of alien races that were white or had white ethnicity but there was only two alien races that had black ethnicity, Horusians and Contraxians.


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does the ethinicty of a large number of races that we rearely see really bother you. and the fact that krees dont have blacks but have blues?


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does the ethinicty of a large number of races that we rearely see really bother you. and the fact that krees dont have blacks but have blues?


Not now but it was when I was growing up......

Now I would welcome it but I wouldnt lose any sleep.


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the only thing i've ever cared about was who they were as people and their powers and stuff.

the ethnicty never mattered to me since it never helped me relate in any way


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the only thing i've ever cared about was who they were as people and their powers and stuff.

the ethnicty never mattered to me since it never helped me relate in any way


You might have grown up at a different time and had different experiences, it would matter less now. Anyway its never only been about ethnicity, ive never really liked Black Panther that much.


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With the Kryptonians, it's never troubled me they were humanoid; they make it work for the origin story of Superman. Jor-El chose Earth because humans were very close to them genetically. The fact they were all Caucasian looking also didn't bother me - they have lived to an age where society was sterile & arrogant, which helped seal their doom when it came. Conformity was a very major part of their lives.


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With the Kryptonians, it's never troubled me they were humanoid; they make it work for the origin story of Superman. Jor-El chose Earth because humans were very close to them genetically. The fact they were all Caucasian looking also didn't bother me - they have lived to an age where society was sterile & arrogant, which helped seal their doom when it came. Conformity was a very major part of their lives.


Um why would Kyrptonians being humanoid and white bother you in the first place?


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Um why would Kyrptonians being humanoid and white bother you in the first place?


Racism.


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Krees are have two races, they are also a major racist race in the universe, the Badoon are sexist to the dome. I don't recall any other race related to extraterrestials, Eternals and Deviants have different races and they don't seem to have problems with that.


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well my opinion is it really doesn't matter what color the race is as long as the story is entertaining....seriously be it alien or human or humanoid alien....the only time i have ever had a problem with the color of anything is if they change the color of someone who already is one race but only because that's not how it was...like superman for instance i can see him being another color in another dimension but not other wise....soo for the color of the humanoid aliens...i think it doesn't matter as long as the story is entertaining.


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At least in DC, it's been mentioned before that one of the reasons Earth keeps on getting involved with Interstellar events is because it's one of the few planets in the Universe that has its level of genetic diversity.

I don't know if that's a round-about way of DC defending the fact that they once put all of the black Kryptonians on Vathlo Island, "The Home of a Highly Advanced Black Race."

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Um why would Kyrptonians being humanoid and white bother you in the first place?


It didn't. Hence the discussion in this thread. The need to show black kryptonians now - to address some sense of imbalance the writers perceive - strikes me as unnecessary.

The Kree, with their tangled history of blue & pink genetic lines, came along at a different time. Marvel was trying to parallel what they saw in the 1960's civil rights movement, put into a science fiction setting.


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Originally posted by tjcoady
At least in DC, it's been mentioned before that one of the reasons Earth keeps on getting involved with Interstellar events is because it's one of the few planets in the Universe that has its level of genetic diversity.

I don't know if that's a round-about way of DC defending the fact that they once put all of the black Kryptonians on Vathlo Island, "The Home of a Highly Advanced Black Race."
NOt just that but it is the most emotional diverse planet in the universe and the lynchpin of the multiverse.


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Now I think I get it. Sparthoids and stuff like that right? As in races that look human and seem to be just white when they appear?

Is there anything to said about them?


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It didn't. Hence the discussion in this thread. The need to show black kryptonians now - to address some sense of imbalance the writers perceive - strikes me as unnecessary.


Well I dont know where you're from but to be quite honest with you if you were white you might not be that bothered eg I think its cool that Bishop is Aborginal but my main concern is with black characters.

I dont see whats wrong with somebody from a minority wanting to see more minority characters in a universe that is based on this one. However im not particularly bothered now there are enough black superheroes in the mainstream in DC for me not to be bothered that much.

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The Kree, with their tangled history of blue & pink genetic lines, came along at a different time. Marvel was trying to parallel what they saw in the 1960's civil rights movement, put into a science fiction setting.


Yeah I figured it had something to do with that.

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Now I think I get it. Sparthoids and stuff like that right? As in races that look human and seem to be just white when they appear?

Is there anything to said about them?


Um...what?


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Well I dont know where you're from but to be quite honest with you if you were white you might not be that bothered eg I think its cool that Bishop is Aborginal but my main concern is with black characters.


well they have enough ones in comics now adays that people who complain they want more black chars probbly just dont know many so they assume there are none. Another problem is non comic readers complaining about it. While there is nothing wrong with adding minority ones its pointless to add unneeded chars that just happen to be one


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Originally posted by jalek moye
well they have enough ones in comics now adays that people who complain they want more black chars probbly just dont know many so they assume there are none. Another problem is non comic readers complaining about it.



I dont have a problem with DC but it seems that Marvel seem to be lacking in this area. Im mainly talking about mainstream black characters, if you added all the black superheroes in the marvel universe it would be alot but it would still be alot less than white.

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While there is nothing wrong with adding minority ones its pointless to add unneeded chars that just happen to be one


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