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Question Real Physics Vs. Comic Physics

Well for any that have debated with me you know that I like to use real physics to back up some of my claims in comic debates. However some people say that you can’t use real physics to do this because comics do not follow them. However IMO most of these debates would be pointless with out some type of reference for the level of power that they wield because they don’t give exact descriptions of their powers. We have seen Superman go all out with his heat vision but it doesn’t say how hot it is so we see what he destroyed and what it would take to destroy the target to get the level of heat, the only way to do that is by real physics.

What is the general thought on this?


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comics have been known to apply some wanky "Comic Physics"...

The best example of this is the different methods of time-travel.


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You cannot depend on real world physics in comic books. When you read comic books, you're supposed to suspend disbelief and ignore any scientific misgivings.


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You cannot depend on real world physics in comic books. When you read comic books, you're supposed to suspend disbelief and ignore any scientific misgivings.
However if you are going to say power X will work on character B you need to have the level of X, if it is not stated how powerful then how will you know it will work?


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Depends on your universe. DC tends to forget physics completely sometimes, whereas Marvel will apply it nine times out of ten, as will Wildstorm.

I say it's a flexible prospect.


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I like to back my arguments with physics if posible, but DC has some twisted conceptions of that which are not good places to develop physics.


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Comic physics are different from real world physics. If they were the same you wouldnt have mutants. You still have to use logic, but its based on the general showings of the superheroes.

I would say though unless the comics prove otherwise, you can use real world physics. Lasers are faster than arrows but some superheroes have been shown to move faster and throw objects faster than lasers.


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There's also differences in how things are represented. In DC, it's obvious that black holes are sans an Event Horizon, where they exist in Marvel, etc.


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comic physics are what "real" physics could be if man tapped the full potential of his mind.

Einstein at most used 11% or so of his brain capacity.

in asia there are people who demonstrate mind over matter abilities
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Originally posted by don't shiv
comic physics are what "real" physics could be if man tapped the full potential of his mind.

Einstein at most used 11% or so of his brain capacity.

in asia there are people who demonstrate mind over matter abilities
youknowwhatimsayindontcha'


no, no, no and shut up


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no, no, no and shut up


There was no need for that.


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There was no need for that.


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Yes there was. I can't stand consipiracy theorists presenting random nonsense as fact.

I will take back the "shut up" though


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Originally posted by don't shiv
comic physics are what "real" physics could be if man tapped the full potential of his mind.

Einstein at most used 11% or so of his brain capacity.

in asia there are people who demonstrate mind over matter abilities
youknowwhatimsayindontcha'


no, comic physics in many cases work counter to how we even currently understand the world.

No, all humans use pretty much 100% of their brain, most of it is for unconscious processing of stimuli and autonomic functions within the nervous system

No there are not, and no they can't. Any individual able to do such a thing, or the person that found him, would win a Nobel prize, along with thousands of other awards, including MILLIONS of dollars (James Randi offers 1 million dollars to anyone who can prove any supernatural phenomena in a objective test). Afaik, nobody has won it for being delusional yet.

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There was no need for that.


there totally was


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Bro havent you heard of Qi gong and Shaolin Monks? confused


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Originally posted by don't shiv
comic physics are what "real" physics could be if man tapped the full potential of his mind.

Einstein at most used 11% or so of his brain capacity.

in asia there are people who demonstrate mind over matter abilities
youknowwhatimsayindontcha'

Bullshit, there's not one scrap of evidence for that.

Over in the philosophy forum, some people claimed the same thing, but when asked for proof they couldn't supply any.


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Bro havent you heard of Qi gong and Shaolin Monks? confused


I have

I have also never seen Shaolin Monks alter reality at a whim


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Bro havent you heard of Qi gong and Shaolin Monks? confused


Bro, have you heard of Chariots of the Gods and The Reptilian Agenda

Or whoever that psychic chick is that Oprah always brings out, or John Edwards

So: Yes, I have, they are no different than claims of holy water or psychic detectives.

Oh ya, and I SWEAR that I HONEST TO GOD saw David Copperfield fly.

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Bullshit, there's not one scrap of evidence for that.

Over in the philosophy forum, some people claimed the same thing, but when asked for proof they couldn't supply any.


exactly smile Its just some old "truism" that people don't use 100% of their mind. In reality, Pretty much everything in the brain is used for something, the closer you look at it, the more specific it becomes.


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Bro, have you heard of Chariots of the Gods and The Reptilian Agenda

Or whoever that psychic chick is that Oprah always brings out, or John Edwards

So: Yes, I have, they are no different than claims of holy water or psychic detectives.

Oh ya, and I SWEAR that I HONEST TO GOD saw David Copperfield fly.


*sigh* im not saying that I think people can fly or there are reptiles. What im saying is there are some people who can push themselves beyond normal human capability. I havent seen anybody fly but I have seen stuff that could be considered to be supernatural.


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*sigh* im not saying that I think people can fly or there are reptiles. What im saying is there are some people who can push themselves beyond normal human capability. I havent seen anybody fly but I have seen stuff that could be considered to be supernatural.


Well sure people can push themselves but they can only go so far


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comic physics are what "real" physics could be if man tapped the full potential of his mind.

Einstein at most used 11% or so of his brain capacity.

in asia there are people who demonstrate mind over matter abilities
youknowwhatimsayindontcha'
I used to think that too, but the using 10% of our brain is not that we don’t use the other 90%. You should ask Regret, he is much better at this subject but we talked about it in the Religion forum.

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