KillerMovies - Movies That Matter!

REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Home » Comic Book Forums » Comic Book 'Versus' Forum » Black adam vs Juggernaut

Black adam vs Juggernaut
Started by: Drakon09

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
Drakon09
Restricted

Gender: Unspecified
Location: United States

Account Restricted

Black adam vs Juggernaut

Who wins and why?

Old Post Jan 13th, 2014 07:58 PM
Drakon09 is currently offline Click here to Send Drakon09 a Private Message Find more posts by Drakon09 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
jaxthejester
Visit The Halls of Hulk!

Gender: Male
Location: Seattle, WA

I've always thought this would be a fantastic match.

Juggernaut is immune (for most intents and purposes) to physical damage.
But powerful magical attacks can harm him.

Black Adam uses primarily physical attack options.
But he can charge his fists with raw magic. The result is a pseudo-magical physical attack- at Superman Class levels.

So the real question is...

Do Black Adam's magically charged fists "qualify" as a powerful enough magical attack to bypass Cyttorak's Invulnerability Enchantment?
I'm a bit torn on this. Arguments can be made for both sides.

Thoughts?


__________________
Looking for a Comic Fan Forum that is overflowing with good humor, legendary posters, and no Trolls?

Come visit Mickeys Tavern!

Just Google "Mickeys Tavern Comics"
Or click my Avatar and click on my "Home Page."
We would love to see you there!

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 12:23 AM
jaxthejester is currently offline Click here to Send jaxthejester a Private Message Find more posts by jaxthejester Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
juggernaut74
Bigsexy

Gender: Male
Location: Death Star

Good fight. Gotta go with Adam because of his speed and versatility edge.


__________________

The price of fame is high and the Thing cant pay the way.

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 12:42 AM
juggernaut74 is currently offline Click here to Send juggernaut74 a Private Message Find more posts by juggernaut74 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
DTM
Senior Member

Gender:
Location: New Zealand

Im not sure Adam could reliably even hurt Juggernaut with his strikes, and while it might take a long time for Juggs to hit him back, those hits will hurt, and allow future hits to be more and more common. Juggernaut wins here after a long fight.

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 05:12 AM
DTM is currently offline Click here to Send DTM a Private Message Find more posts by DTM Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Bentley
Seitei

Gender: Unspecified
Location: France

Adam would BFR Juggs until Cyttorrak gets bored of getting him back into the fight. Then he'd grant Adam the Cyttorrak gem for being a Superior avatar.

Then Adam somehow will still be stomped by Superman.


__________________


My respect threads:Kang the Conqueror, Ultron, Devil Dinosaur, Michael Korvac
Captain America for High Street

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 05:51 AM
Bentley is currently offline Click here to Send Bentley a Private Message Find more posts by Bentley Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
KingD19
Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Gender: Male
Location: Land of the Lost

Has Adam ever tried to BFR anyone?

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 05:59 AM
KingD19 is currently offline Click here to Send KingD19 a Private Message Find more posts by KingD19 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
CatL18
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location:

Adam will punch Juggernaut into the Sun.
Juggernaut can't escape from the Sun.

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 06:26 AM
CatL18 is currently offline Click here to Send CatL18 a Private Message Find more posts by CatL18 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
KingD19
Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Gender: Male
Location: Land of the Lost

I highly doubt that will work.

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 06:38 AM
KingD19 is currently offline Click here to Send KingD19 a Private Message Find more posts by KingD19 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
DarkSaint85
Bonified abstract

Gender: Unspecified
Location:

quote: (post)
Originally posted by CatL18
Adam will punch Juggernaut into the Sun.
Juggernaut can't escape from the Sun.


100% canon.


__________________

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 10:04 AM
DarkSaint85 is currently offline Click here to Send DarkSaint85 a Private Message Find more posts by DarkSaint85 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Mshinu
Star for a Brain

Gender: Male
Location: Meditating

Adam by BFR

If he does not go for the BFR it comes down to if BA`s magic strikes can affect Juggy.. it is quite inconsistent what kind of magic it takes. Mjolnir can`t do it for instance. If he can then Cain gets steamrolled, if not then Juggs eventually destroys him.


__________________

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 11:05 AM
Mshinu is currently offline Click here to Send Mshinu a Private Message Find more posts by Mshinu Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
h1a8
Senior Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: United States

I always look at it as a character always has the option to bfr. They may not go for it right away depending on their basic knowledge of the opponent prior to the fight or their character (like Thor's warrior mindset to fight). But if they are not making any progress and see no way of winning then it is a viable option, unless the character is utterly retarded.


__________________
"Such fragile lifeformses."

-General Zod: Superman II

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 04:43 PM
h1a8 is currently offline Click here to Send h1a8 a Private Message Find more posts by h1a8 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
KingD19
Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Gender: Male
Location: Land of the Lost

Cain has only ever been BFR'd by exotic means. No one's ever done it through purely physical force before.

Even when Skaar did it, Cain was in the air so his unstoppability wasn't in effect, and he had to charge up an Old Strong punch to do it.

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 05:13 PM
KingD19 is currently offline Click here to Send KingD19 a Private Message Find more posts by KingD19 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Bentley
Seitei

Gender: Unspecified
Location: France

Hulk casually BFR him during WWH.

The Old power shouldn't ever register on Juggs level of power to begin with, so the fact Skaar had to charge its meaningless.


__________________


My respect threads:Kang the Conqueror, Ultron, Devil Dinosaur, Michael Korvac
Captain America for High Street

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 05:29 PM
Bentley is currently offline Click here to Send Bentley a Private Message Find more posts by Bentley Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
h1a8
Senior Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: United States

quote: (post)
Originally posted by KingD19
Cain has only ever been BFR'd by exotic means. No one's ever done it through purely physical force before.

Even when Skaar did it, Cain was in the air so his unstoppability wasn't in effect, and he had to charge up an Old Strong punch to do it.
Onslaught did it. Juggs can easily be thrown to space, or another city at least. He doesn't even weigh a half of ton.


__________________
"Such fragile lifeformses."

-General Zod: Superman II

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 05:45 PM
h1a8 is currently offline Click here to Send h1a8 a Private Message Find more posts by h1a8 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
KingD19
Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Gender: Male
Location: Land of the Lost

By moving out of the way and letting his unstoppability keep him going. You act like Hulk just socked him into that lake.

And Skaar has hit Hulk with 100 Trillion Tons of Force after a good Old Power charge. Charge time is not meaningless in this instance. And the hit didn't hurt him, it just packed enough force to launch a man whose merely 900lbs into orbit. But the fact that Skaar knocked him into orbit from ground level shows how strong that hit was.

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 05:46 PM
KingD19 is currently offline Click here to Send KingD19 a Private Message Find more posts by KingD19 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
carver9
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: United States

Onslaught did bfr him though. TK punched him across some states.


__________________


On ignore list: Darksaint and Stilt

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 05:50 PM
carver9 is currently offline Click here to Send carver9 a Private Message Find more posts by carver9 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
h1a8
Senior Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: United States

quote: (post)
Originally posted by KingD19
By moving out of the way and letting his unstoppability keep him going. You act like Hulk just socked him into that lake.

And Skaar has hit Hulk with 100 Trillion Tons of Force after a good Old Power charge. Charge time is not meaningless in this instance. And the hit didn't hurt him, it just packed enough force to launch a man whose merely 900lbs into orbit. But the fact that Skaar knocked him into orbit from ground level shows how strong that hit was.
I'm not saying that someone can easily bfr once Juggs is moving. He isn't always moving. There are spots where he isn't moving and can be easily hit or picked up and thrown away. Actually, Juggs has been picked up and thrown several times in comics. He was also hit away several times too. He doesn't have to bfred to space. Another city would suffice since he can't get back in time.


__________________
"Such fragile lifeformses."

-General Zod: Superman II

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 05:52 PM
h1a8 is currently offline Click here to Send h1a8 a Private Message Find more posts by h1a8 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Bentley
Seitei

Gender: Unspecified
Location: France

quote: (post)
Originally posted by KingD19
By moving out of the way and letting his unstoppability keep him going. You act like Hulk just socked him into that lake.

And Skaar has hit Hulk with 100 Trillion Tons of Force after a good Old Power charge. Charge time is not meaningless in this instance. And the hit didn't hurt him, it just packed enough force to launch a man whose merely 900lbs into orbit. But the fact that Skaar knocked him into orbit from ground level shows how strong that hit was.


Eh, we're not going to act as if Skaar is carrying 100 trillion tons powers every time he's touching the ground.

By your own admission, Hulk pulles something that Black Adam who is much faster can easily replicate. The example of Onslaught has been brought in too...


__________________


My respect threads:Kang the Conqueror, Ultron, Devil Dinosaur, Michael Korvac
Captain America for High Street

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 06:38 PM
Bentley is currently offline Click here to Send Bentley a Private Message Find more posts by Bentley Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Wei Phoenix
One-Eyed Dragon Of Oshu

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Southern Cross

They fight to a manly stalemate. They have a good fight and end up being friends because they're so evenly matched.


__________________


You Wa Shock!

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 07:22 PM
Wei Phoenix is currently offline Click here to Send Wei Phoenix a Private Message Find more posts by Wei Phoenix Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
KingD19
Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Gender: Male
Location: Land of the Lost

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Bentley
Eh, we're not going to act as if Skaar is carrying 100 trillion tons powers every time he's touching the ground.

By your own admission, Hulk pulles something that Black Adam who is much faster can easily replicate. The example of Onslaught has been brought in too...


I never said it was the same punch or that he could pull that off all the time. But Cain was falling for a good while and gave him plenty of time to cock his arm back and charge up. Because just like we're not going to say Skaar can hit with x100,000,000,000,000 tons of force all willy nilly, we're not going to see he can casually punch someone into orbit.

And the only reason Hulk could pull that move off is because they were locked up in a pushing match.

As for Onslaught. Onslaught doesn't even make any sense. But he did send him flying with TK, which at that point Cain had no defense against and the fight was off panel anyway so we don't even know what happened.

Old Post Jan 14th, 2014 07:58 PM
KingD19 is currently offline Click here to Send KingD19 a Private Message Find more posts by KingD19 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 11:39 PM.
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread

Home » Comic Book Forums » Comic Book 'Versus' Forum » Black adam vs Juggernaut

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.