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Colossus Or The Thing

which would you rather be

1. Comic World
2. Real World
3. If both were repeatidly bashed toghther by hulk who would last longer

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I think Colossus has more powers -not needing to breath, magic resistance and being malleable in steel form-, so he should be considered better when it comes to that.

...It just make Thing much more awesome at being better than Piotr, so Thing on both.


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Done before.

Being trapped in a body which looks like a pile of dinosaur poo still sucks.


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Done before.

Being trapped in a body which looks like a pile of dinosaur poo still sucks.


I don't know if you'd be trapped. Hasn't it been established many times in the past that the main reason that Ben can't turn human again is because he has a bunch of blocks in his subconscious. Not sure if that's the case now, though.

As long as you're pretty neurosis free, you shouldn't have a problem.

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Oh and BTW, I'd want to be the Thing in the comic world (or better yet, Ultimate Thing). and just for the record, I'd find a way to take the Hulk down. smile

In the real world, it's a toss up. Both of them would probably make most real world bad guys sh*t a brick.

As for the third scenario also a toss up. The most likely end would be a mixed up pile of rocks and scrap metal.

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Piotr for all 3.


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Colossus takes all three of them.


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Thing takes all 3. He got a strong will, dangerous hand-to-hand combat skills, and is also very strong and VERY intelligent. Colossus's tiny advantage in strenght won't make a difference here, and besides, Thing more than makes up for it with his enormous advantage in durability.


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Thing takes all 3. He got a strong will, dangerous hand-to-hand combat skills, and is also very strong and VERY intelligent. Colossus's tiny advantage in strenght won't make a difference here, and besides, Thing more than makes up for it with his enormous advantage in durability.

He's also ugly and incapable of transforming back at will. I'm not an incredibly vain person but I'm vain enough that I'd much rather be Colossus than Thing.

Colossus is also trained in h/h, perhaps more so than Thing. Also where do you get that Thing has an enormous durability advantage?


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He's also ugly and incapable of transforming back at will. I'm not an incredibly vain person but I'm vain enough that I'd much rather be Colossus than Thing.

Colossus is also trained in h/h, perhaps more so than Thing. Also where do you get that Thing has an enormous durability advantage?


Colossus is not more trained in H2H than Thing is, and definetely not better in it; ever heard of Krav Maga? Well, I can assure you that Thing has...

Thing has taken hits from Hulk, lots of them, Colossus has never resisted such force.


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He's also ugly
that's your opinion. i honestly don't find thing ugly. also, you are superficial.


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that's your opinion. i honestly don't find thing ugly. also, you are superficial.

And you're blind.
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Colossus is not more trained in H2H than Thing is, and definetely not better in it; ever heard of Krav Maga? Well, I can assure you that Thing has...

Thing has taken hits from Hulk, lots of them, Colossus has never resisted such force.

It's not like Thing is a master of Krav Maga. Colossus has also taken hits from the Hulk and took hits from Gladiator as well. They're about even when it comes to durability.


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And you're blind.
oh wow...so suddenly beauty is objective?


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oh wow...so suddenly beauty is objective?

No. I'm sure Thing is like a male model to a hypothetical race of Golems. But by human standards he's grotesque. And those are the standards we use. Thing more than anyone thinks he's ugly, sometimes he's even portrayed with an inferiority complex due to this.


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No. I'm sure Thing is like a male model to a hypothetical race of Golems. But by human standards he's grotesque. And those are the standards we use.
he's not human...you shouldn't use human standards

I think of him as an animal...creature. you're right, by human standards, he's unattractive, but by animal standards, he's not.

edit: even by human standards, he isn't grotesque.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
And you're blind.

It's not like Thing is a master of Krav Maga. Colossus has also taken hits from the Hulk and took hits from Gladiator as well. They're about even when it comes to durability.


The great thing about Krav Maga is, that even when you're not a master of it, you're still a master of general non-Krav Maga combat. You feel me? Colossus never had THAT big of a reputation for his fighting skills.

Oh, and look at the difference in how well Thing and Colossus took the hits from Hulk. Thing is obviously the more durable of them.


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he's not human...you shouldn't use human standards

I think of him as an animal...creature. you're right, by human standards, he's unattractive, but by animal standards, he's not.

edit: even by human standards, he isn't grotesque.

He is a human. A human mutate.

Why would we use animal standards? Please explain that leap in logic.

He's a rock monster, how isn't that grotesque?


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
He is a human. A human mutate.

Why would we use animal standards? Please explain that leap in logic.

He's a rock monster, how isn't that grotesque?


We use animal standards because he clearly is not human in physical attributes...he was created by radiation/

He isn't grotesque because little kids love him. The chick from exorcist or swamp thing are grotesque...thing is cute.


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We use animal standards because he clearly is not human in physical attributes...he was created by radiation/

He isn't grotesque because little kids love him. The chick from exorcist or swamp thing are grotesque...thing is cute.

So we use Animal standards of beauty for Johnny, Sue, and Reed as well? They were exposed to the same radiation.

What exactly are "animal standards" anyway? Last I checked animals are by no means homogeneous, they don't even all share bilateral symmetry.

Thing can be drawn to look "cute" but when drawn photo-realistically (or rendered with CGI as in the movie) he's downright monstrous.


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So we use Animal standards of beauty for Johnny, Sue, and Reed as well? They were exposed to the same radiation.

What exactly are "animal standards" anyway? Last I checked animals are by no means homogeneous, they don't even all share bilateral symmetry.

Thing can be drawn to look "cute" but when drawn photo-realistically (or rendered with CGI as in the movie) he's downright monstrous.
I use animal just to mean non-human

jonny, sue and reed all look human...thing doesn't. jeez.

show a pic of thing (realistic or not) to a kid...I'll bet you they will not say 'eeeew' whereas if you show them a pic of swampthing or grundy they will. thing is not grotesque by any means.


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