Either Namor or Wonder Man to a lesser degree (Not being jobbed.) can hang with the Hulk for some time. The major problem with throwing numbers at the Hulk is that he can just amp up in strength and durability to counteract the disadvantage. This team needs to go for the knock out quick and hope that the Hulk's durability and/or endurance is not at it's higher end levels.
If they try to slug it out, he'll get knocked around but that's as far as they're gonna get.
The Hulk can amp severely nearly instantly.
As seen at the end of World War Hulk, he went into the World Breaker state in moments. Of course, he was unusually angry at the time.
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he went "worldbreaker" in a later issue also, plus he got all of that gamma back from the incident where it was drained from him per the latest Hulk issue.
he beat up red hulk among other things while all that extra power he had was locked away in the cathexis machinery, now he has it all back.
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Hulks amping speed is unpredictable. Most times he amps very slowly. Less than 1% of the time he amps quickly. So the chances of Hulk amping to a point where he gives the team problems is slim to none. So to be fair I give Hulk 1 win out of 10.
It depends on the threat pitted against him and how angry he is.
The Hulk's strength level depends on how strong his opponent or in this case, opponents are.
You should read Incredible Hulk #270. The Abomination learned a valuable lesson that you should. It doesn't matter how strong the Hulk's opposition is, the Hulk will simply get mad enough to close the gap.
Just so you know, a weakened Bannerless Hulk was holding his own against Hercules, Iron Man, Wonder Man, and Namor.
Wonderman has never beaten the Hulk, even in an alternate universe he would have no chance, ie The last Avengers Story.
Exactly, the guys that the Hulk trashed back then, included Namor, and Wonderman. Hercules is also a bigger factor than Colossus, and if there is still any doubt, add Doc Samson, and Ironman to the mix and most would concur that this team would need help. Lots of help.
The Savage Hulk has lifted far more alone than this team could collectively, and it didn't take a year for him to get to that level. ie The Secret Wars when he kept a mountain from crushing earths mightiest heroes, and if I remember correctly Thor was under that mountain and didn't lift a finger to help him.
The Savage Hulk at his best, would trash this team... we're still going by a characters best feats right?
Again Hulk is unpredictable. I saw many times he was koed before he got strong enough. Hulk got his share of beatdowns as much as anybody. The times where he gained upper hand on the stronger is far few and in-between.
I'm not comfortable with Hulk facing WM let only with the others combine.
Bannerless Hulk is not the same as Savage Hulk.
Lastly, I don't considered "weakened" as evidence for anything here if we can't discerned HOW much weakened. After all Hulk can start off weak but gain normal levels in no time. Or he can grow stronger much slowly. It is statistics.
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[B]Wonderman has never beaten the Hulk, even in an alternate universe he would have no chance, ie The last Avengers Story.
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Wonder Man stalemated the Hulk and if he was written correctly that should be the standard.
Wonder Man has been the victim of one the most inexplicable depowerings in comics history.
There is no reason given for his going from top-tier to jobber status during the past decade.
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