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Silverspider/Dizzle's Team Tournament: SemiFinal Fight 1- Khellendros vs. Blair Wind
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Khellendros
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Originally posted by Blair Wind
immediate start of fight my powerhouses hit the air around crystal pushing a gravity field around the area. They take in the envirmont, and before Light takes their vision see everything they really need to see. The gravity fields are already in place so everyone on your team is slowed down, and my powerhouses take the drunk irish crowd and throw them in mass numbers towards your general direction over the fence
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Numbers slow you down immensly (even though gravity has already slowed you down)

Crystal has created a large pool of lava speeding (with her powers) in your direction. Frostbite would be too busy dealing with the arisal of lava burning in their direction and taking all the heat touching him (which would be soo much that things would start exploding around him which would hurt your team). Another thing that would happen would be that Crystal immediatly takes all the oxygen from the opposite side of the arena (and since oxygen plays no role in hardening lava its not needed
http://teacher.scholastic.com/resea...canoes/lava.htm ) So all your members would be lacking air, and out in a few minutes since gravity is holding them down not letting them move.

Hm. Not a horrible plan. Only problem is, none of this is happening when your team is blinded, freezing and nerve-damaged.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
I dont need vision for attacking in a general forward direction.

MAYBE not. But normal blood flow, lack of excruciating pain and a fully functional nervous system is ALWAYS helpful.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
also you say your grail armour chi thing dissolves organic matter on contact. My powerhouse powers allow me to dissolve inorganic matter on contact, and if I wanted too my powerhouses could fly in from the very beginning at mach speeds and touch the only one of your team members that has a full on costume (Dr. Light) disengrating his suit and his powers would go bye bye. (and with a Zero G punch at mach speeds he would be out cold) actually one of my Powerhouses does that at mach speeds before anyone on your team can react and comes back to my side and everything else goes on as I said above.

First, read my post. Light has shields up. Second, Frostbite doesn't need to see you to drain heat from you, so your boy is going from living rocket to useless shivering lump in a split second.

See, my team has the attack advantage in Frostbite. He doesn't need to see you, he just needs to sense your body heat. And, unlike any of the other attacks, his is instant. Wanna know how cold a human body has to be before things start going wrong for them?

Hypothermia (Clinical)
97 - 95 / 36.1 - 35.0: Brain Fog: Coordination declines, mental horizon shrinks.
95 - 93 / 35.0 - 33.9: Medical Hypothermia: Stumbles, mumbles, grumbles set in, heart problems?
92 - 86 / 33.3 - 30.0: Medical Emergency! Amnesia, stupor, weak pulse.
86 - 82 / 30.0 - 27.8: Stupor, coma, heart problems, death possible.
82 - 75 / 27.8 - 23.9: Death extremely probable

At only a THREE DEGREE drop in core temp, your coordination is screwed and you're having trouble thinking. Makes those fancy super powers kinda hard to use, eh? Ten degrees, and your brain is barely working, and your heart is struggling to beat. Just ten degrees, and you're as weak as lambs. A couple more degrees lower, and your heart is barely beating, but that won't matter because you're likely comatose.

Fourteen degrees, from 98 to 82. That's all he has to take from your team. And unlike being in freezing water or cold air, your bodyfat and other tissues won't slow the process down at all. He can take the heat right from your body's core.

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Originally posted by Khellendros
Hm. Not a horrible plan. Only problem is, none of this is happening when your team is blinded, freezing and nerve-damaged.


MAYBE not. But normal blood flow, lack of excruciating pain and a fully functional nervous system is ALWAYS helpful.


First, read my post. Light has shields up. Second, Frostbite doesn't need to see you to drain heat from you, so your boy is going from living rocket to useless shivering lump in a split second.

See, my team has the attack advantage in Frostbite. He doesn't need to see you, he just needs to sense your body heat. And, unlike any of the other attacks, his is instant. Wanna know how cold a human body has to be before things start going wrong for them?

Hypothermia (Clinical)
97 - 95 / 36.1 - 35.0: Brain Fog: Coordination declines, mental horizon shrinks.
95 - 93 / 35.0 - 33.9: Medical Hypothermia: Stumbles, mumbles, grumbles set in, heart problems?
92 - 86 / 33.3 - 30.0: Medical Emergency! Amnesia, stupor, weak pulse.
86 - 82 / 30.0 - 27.8: Stupor, coma, heart problems, death possible.
82 - 75 / 27.8 - 23.9: Death extremely probable

At only a THREE DEGREE drop in core temp, your coordination is screwed and you're having trouble thinking. Makes those fancy super powers kinda hard to use, eh? Ten degrees, and your brain is barely working, and your heart is struggling to beat. Just ten degrees, and you're as weak as lambs. A couple more degrees lower, and your heart is barely beating, but that won't matter because you're likely comatose.

Fourteen degrees, from 98 to 82. That's all he has to take from your team. And unlike being in freezing water or cold air, your bodyfat and other tissues won't slow the process down at all. He can take the heat right from your body's core.
How fast can he do this?


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Khellendros
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How fast can he do this?

Did you see the heat extraction scan I posted on the first page? He took a massive amount of heat from below the ground for a mile in every direction in the time it took to say a sentence or two. I can post scans of him absorbing the heat from the explosions of multiple rockets fired from a pair of helicopters, meaning it would have had to have been nearly instantaneous.

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Originally posted by Khellendros
I can post scans of him absorbing the heat from the explosions of multiple rockets fired from a pair of helicopters, meaning it would have had to have been nearly instantaneous.

I can, and I think I will post those scans.
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They're also good at showing the speed at which he can create an ice construct and the strength of said ice, since he couldn't absorb the kinetic portion of the explosions.

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why was he glowing after that?

and surely a lava flow has significantly greater levels of heat than the desert floor at night


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Originally posted by Scoobless
why was he glowing after that?

Because he'd just absorbed enough heat to create one very large and thick ice sphere and the heat of 13-14 rockets exploding at once?

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Originally posted by Scoobless
and surely a lava flow has significantly greater levels of heat than the desert floor at night

Yes it would. If the heat became too much, he could simply purge it in a concentrated blast, either into the air or at the Wendigo, while still cooling down the lava. I say "could", because Crystal isn't going to have time to melt rock (though where it would come from in an adamantium ring, I don't know) and throw it at my team in the second or less it takes the temperature drop to disable/kill her.

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Originally posted by Khellendros
(though where it would come from in an adamantium ring, I don't know)


lol..... i must have missed that part when i first read the setting.... smile


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Yeah, I missed it the first time around too.

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hmm, yeah, the adamantium may hinder that tactic unless bw has a good explanation. khell, i see his leeching heat from the ground and environment, but has he done anything like you're having him do here? leech loads of heat from animate beings?


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khell, i see his leeching heat from the ground and environment, but has he done anything like you're having him do here? leech loads of heat from animate beings?

Really? Leeching heat from a bunch of explosions isn't enough? He has to actually be shown freezing living people? Well, I'm not at my home computer, so getting scans will have to wait till later on today/tonight.

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Originally posted by Khellendros
Really? Leeching heat from a bunch of explosions isn't enough? He has to actually be shown freezing living people? Well, I'm not at my home computer, so getting scans will have to wait till later on today/tonight.


yeah... heat from explosions and such is finite at best... a person who continually generates their own bodyheat may be completely different

..... and he had to touch the sand to drain the desert in your other scan


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not only that, very often a character can easily manipulate inanimate objects. for some reason, dealing with living things tends to be much more difficult . . .


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ok.......... shutting up now

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about time . . .

































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Yeah, okay. Like I said, soon as I can, I'll post some scans.

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well see the thing is Crystal (and its more than one) can just spontanously ignite the oxygen around the characters, making them all look like human torch wannabes. The sudden and instant heat around Frostbite would force him to take the heat, or be burned (her attack would also be faster than his taken into account that she is a Inhuman and has faster reaction speeds than humans). Too much heat at one time and things start to explode around him.

Where do I get lava (and its an adamantium fenceing if Im not mistaken) would be simple. There is geothermal water heat only three to six miles deep all around the world (last subtitle http://geothermal.marin.org/pwrheat.html) I could create sudden shift under your characters (who are busy with lots of fire, gravity fields not letting them move, and irish crowd members being thrown at them) creating an earthquake up to 6.7 in the Richter scale (further disorienting your already immobile and heated up team) and burning them alive with LOTS OF HEAT from the rocks. I bring the heat up through air control and steam you guys. Lava could also be created with her powers with that hot rock.

from here http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/...ergy-works.html

"Under the earth's crust, there is a layer of hot and molten rock called magma. Heat is continually produced there, mostly from the decay of naturally radioactive materials like uranium and potassium. The amount of heat within 10,000 meters (about 33,000 feet [less than a 30 mile radius) of the surface contains 50,000 times more energy than all the oil and natural gas resources in the world"


Gravity would also have all your characters totally immobile, and at the start of the fight all my powerhouses can move faster than any of your members (mach speeds)


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Originally posted by Khellendros
Did you see the heat extraction scan I posted on the first page? He took a massive amount of heat from below the ground for a mile in every direction in the time it took to say a sentence or two. I can post scans of him absorbing the heat from the explosions of multiple rockets fired from a pair of helicopters, meaning it would have had to have been nearly instantaneous.
Isn't that a bit OHKO?


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wow...

good match guys!


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Okay, here are the scans. First one is from the VERY first issue of DV8, when he still ahd to wear the regulating belt to control his powers.
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well see the thing is Crystal (and its more than one) can just spontanously ignite the oxygen around the characters, making them all look like human torch wannabes. The sudden and instant heat around Frostbite would force him to take the heat, or be burned (her attack would also be faster than his taken into account that she is a Inhuman and has faster reaction speeds than humans). Too much heat at one time and things start to explode around him.

Reaction time doesn't matter, it's the speed of the attack that does, and I'm betting that I can lower your body temps by 14 degrees before you can ignite enough air to be a nuisance. And still, all you'd be doing is giving Frostbite more ammo to use against you if you succeeded. And yes, if he can't vent the heat things start exploding, but he can also simply vent the heat into the air in a concentrated burst.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Where do I get lava (and its an adamantium fenceing if Im not mistaken) would be simple. There is geothermal water heat only three to six miles deep all around the world (last subtitle http://geothermal.marin.org/pwrheat.html) I could create sudden shift under your characters (who are busy with lots of fire, gravity fields not letting them move, and irish crowd members being thrown at them) creating an earthquake up to 6.7 in the Richter scale (further disorienting your already immobile and heated up team) and burning them alive with LOTS OF HEAT from the rocks. I bring the heat up through air control and steam you guys. Lava could also be created with her powers with that hot rock.

Oh please. You're going to be creating these massive steam explosions, dragging lava up miles through the earth, and creating earthquakes BEFORE Frostbite can do a simple heat drain? Not a chance. At all.

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Gravity would also have all your characters totally immobile, and at the start of the fight all my powerhouses can move faster than any of your members (mach speeds)

Read my first post again. The two who are unleashing the first wave of the attack, Frostbite and Light, don't need to move. They are doing this from across the arena. And your Powerhouses may be fast but they can't outrun being frozen into a coma.

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Isn't that a bit OHKO?

To human-durability folks, maybe. To colossus or Livign Monolith? hell no. To robots and synthetic beings? nope. Hell, I'd imagine the argument could be made that even Iron Man's life support could counteract the freezing.

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