My point is more on the lines of a molecular sized part of Bobby remaining in the arena and Bobby remaining there. We are the ones assuming that if Flash takes a chunk of Bobby his mind will leave too, assuming that the size of the chunk matter.
Iceman has splited before, but he knew it, his consience was there interpreting his position, if Flash actually speed blitzes, it could be that Bobby is left behind instead of taken with the larger chunk.
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In Xmen #195 page 7?(they dont number them)
iceman is occupying the same space as a wall,he dissperses his body and reforms while teammates are falling and saves them(on page 8?),it sates that bobby has learned that his flesh is ice and ice is crystal,and every part of a crystal contains enough information to recreate the whole,
Still undecided but i am checking the respect threads
Now that may actually work. Will it be fast enough to keep Bobby from moving to other waters? Will it take every molecule for sure without dispersing some materials and doing it worse? Can Flash throw air into the speed force? Will Flash be smart enough to pull this off without previous knowledge?
Iceman could erect a meters thick wall of solid ice all around him. make himself so slippery and frictionless that the Flash just slips off of him and loses his grip (has happened to The Flash before in comics).
don't think Iceman is going to lose to The Flash. though I like both characters.
No, he just needs to Dump whatever contains Iceman's consciousness. He doesn't constantly inhabit all water, he moves his consciousness from body of water to body of water. He isn't the whole world unless he consciously wills himself to be.
He'll be in the Speed Force before he can even process the thought of merging with all water on Earth.
First of all, he has prep, so Iceman could put himself in most of the world. Second, Flash cannot be sure that every molecule of Iceman is dumped when he makes his move. Flash doesn't have microscopic vision.
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Thread starter said to the death, so i think BFR is not going to help here,this is too much debatable evidence that he could even take all of bobby, or be sure he had him in the first place, 5 minutes prep plus the "to the death" rules i have to go with Iceman for the win
According to the rules in this thread
Current flash------ iceman wins 9/10
Wally/Barry-------- Iceman wins 7/10
I think the more experienced Flash's will figure something to kill bobby i have to give them alot of respect
I am not debating the speed issue but to kill bobby seems alittle hard to do these days,
I have read both respect threads,this is only my opinon
Everyone keeps talking about dumping Bobby into the speed force!
The point of this being to the death aside, couldn't Bobby just transfer to the moisture within the Flash himself. If so what good does it do to put him in the speedforce? There either both gonna get stuck there or Flash will just bring Bobby back with him when he returns! Also how in the hell is Flash going to get rid of all the moister in the planet? He needs it to breath and live also! Even if he didn't where the hell is he going to place it. Is the Flash capable of running off the planet? (No, I'm not being a smartass. I really don't know, thou I SERIOUSLY don't think he should be able to without some kinda of device.) Still if Flash could and did take ALL the moisture off the planet, could Bobby just inhabit it where ever it is?
I've always loved Bobby as a character. I have always seen him as one of not just the most powerful X-Men but, The most powerful X-Men and one of the greatest forces on Earth. The problem is he just doesn't believe he is capable of what he can REALLY do and he doesn't have the discipline to be what he has the potential to be. But thats a huge part of why I love him.
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To give flash credit....
In the Flash Resect thread i believe Wally/Flash ran in space
It definetly was not the current flash though,but he has done it.
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yeah i think the rules clinch it for iceman,i mean i give props to the more experienced flash('s),And since its a debate i gave some wins for their Awesome feats and crafty ways they use their powers,But i dont see an argument that would lead me to beleive that they could kill him
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