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Jynocidus
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He is either a random Odin level Skyfather, or he is the One-Above-All.

You know...I sort of disagree, but I'm not trying to debate. I disagree because going by my perspective of religion, people consider J-C God above sky fathers due to him...creating everything, even Odin and Zeus, because he's The Creator.

I disagree that J-C God is The One Above All, because in Marvel...that has to be God The Artist and God the Creator.

So, if God the Creator and Artist....structured MU, then that means that J-C God has to be somewhere around Shuma or Cytorrak.

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That argument is entirely random, the Christian creation didn't took place in Marvel, Galactus was there to confirm.

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I'm pretty sure hes just another skyfather level char. Atleast was according to Ghost Rider comics. (well nothing seemed to imply that he was much more than that imo)

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That argument is entirely random

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Lek Kuen
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how so? He said something about what level he would be at so i put my two cents in

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Originally posted by Jynocidus
You know...I sort of disagree, but I'm not trying to debate. I disagree because going by my perspective of religion, people consider J-C God above sky fathers due to him...creating everything, even Odin and Zeus, because he's The Creator.

I disagree that J-C God is The One Above All, because in Marvel...that has to be God The Artist and God the Creator.

So, if God the Creator and Artist....structured MU, then that means that J-C God has to be somewhere around Shuma or Cytorrak.

Most of the Skyfathers (Odin, Zeus, Manituo) have creation myth as part of their origins, it's not exclusive to god. In fact I'm pretty sure before Marvel started acknowledging the existence of the other pantheons, Odin was said on panel to have created the universe, but that shit got retcon'd fast.

I remember the Watcher said something like "There is only one all powerful being, and his only weapon is love," which sounds like New Testament God to me, but could be just a coincidence I guess. Still we haven't really seen him, or heard much about him, he is likely just another Skyfather level deity... with a lonely empty pantheon.

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Do you mean when they went outside of the MU and talked to God The Artist, or do you mean...a Heaven 'inside of Marvels Continuity?'

That was just their minds interpretation of Marvel's creator, and an obvious nod to Kirby and Lee, but it was certainly inside of continuity.

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Judo Christian underworld compared to Norse underworld, same would apply for the Heavens?

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God in Marvel is whatever he wants to be.

In a Spider-Man issue he took on another form to interact with Spidey
F4 he was Jack Kirby
And I'm pretty sure there was at least another time where he was someone else

Plus the whole Ghost Rider thing

And I assume his heaven is whatever he wants it to be as well

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I see the fatty.

that's the hotei/budai not Buddha.

In the Marvel universe, the Christian god would be just another skyfather like Odin and Zeus. His creation story would not be historically canon. The Christian god's concern over the poor and the sinful are beneath the concerns of TOAA and the Living Tribunal. The punishing the sinful and honoring the heroic and good are practices common to terrain gods. The Christian pantheon would consist of angels likely the equivalent of Asgardians. Higher angels would range from mid tier to herald level in power. Marvel already has a Satan who's around Mephisto's level. Creatures like Leviathan and Behemoth would likely be on the level of Jormungand and Mangog.

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