OK. I just wanted to clarify my stance in this religious debacle.
The Crusaders were Catholics, hence Christians.
I do not see understand your point in differing Roman Catholicism with Christianity.
Catholicism is a part of Christianity. Its teachings are focused on Jesus Christ.
The main differences it has with the other so-called Christian cults are:
1. Its special emphasis on the Virgin Mary
2. They believe in miracles through saints and holy objects
3. The image of the Body of Christ is present in their crucifixes
4. God is composed of 3 entities with the same level of power: God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
Btw, your statements just reaffirmed my stance that all these neo-Christian denominations are nothing but cults spreading lies with their distorted interpretation of the Roman Catholic Bible.
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Last edited by AsbestosFlaygon on Jan 15th, 2015 at 03:56 AM
Technically Eastern Orthodox Catholics are also the first Church.
Aren't protestant churches respectful of the first councils and the christian living tradition anyways? Both of those came before the Bible was even gathered and they outweight the book when it comes to canon -they pretty much made the Bible canon-. They even did apart with the Torah.
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The difference between Catholicism and Islam is that Catholicism has began retconning many of their inhumane discriminatory dogmas to adapt to the modern human-rights-advocating world, whereas Islam refuses to and as such is seen as the barbaric religion it is. To give one example of many, Pope Benedict, the leader of the Catholic community, has famously dismissed biblical homophobia, whereas in Saudi Arabia, the leaders of the Muslim community, homosexuality is punishable by torture and death. Sorry, but Islam allows human rights violations that must be seen as they are. As society progresses with intelligence, it also clearly does in empathy, and the modern world will not stand for people to undergo horrific suffering for Islamic dogma.
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Looking at you.
Stomping your feet and saying no doesn't make it so. The basic belief in the salvation of Jesus is shared by all Christians, and that includes Catholics. Coming form the point of view of an outsider, the rest doesn't matter.
You can't see the forest for the trees.
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Last edited by Shakyamunison on Jan 15th, 2015 at 06:16 AM
Using the thread starter's logic we should condemn the current Aztec descendants for their human sacrifice, the American descendants for slavery, the German descendants for the Holocaust Egyptian descendants for enslaving the Jews, etc. And YOU posted this vid before I could.
I know that the Roman Catholic Bible (NJB) is a heavily modified version of the original Bible written in Aramaic.
But since it is the oldest Christian religion, it makes sense that they have the version closest to the original text.
Yes, all Christian denominations that came from Catholicism (ie. Protestantism, Lutheran, etc.) are fake religions that unscrupulous businessmen with Messianic complex invented.
All these 'born-again' Christianity-is-not-a-religion-it's-a-relationship cults are just money-making schemes that are contradictory to the original Christian religion, which is Roman Catholicism.
Just like how Shia Islam, Nation of Islam, Five-Percent Nation, etc. are bastardized versions of the original Sunni Islam.
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These "cults" by in large had as much claim to Christianity as Catholicism. You're deluding yourself if you think Catholicism is pure while the others are not. Who could have a bigger messiah complex than the Pope?
These "My Jesus is better than yours" arguments are amusing, carry forth
edit: May I suggest a way to sort out whose Jesus is better? I say we give precedence by age. The older the denomination, the better their Jesus is. eg Roman Catholics > Baptist, Baptist > Mormons, Mormons > 7th Day Adventist etc. etc. etc.
Again, technically Eastern Orthodox Catholics are as old as the Roman Catholics, don't follow a single pope (they are more like archbishops), were not in the crusades nor the inquisition, and have a smaller cult of icons.
So this is more like "which western Jesus is better".
Roman Catholic Jesus is the protagonist of the mainstream continuity.
The versions from other Bibles' are alternate versions of himself from different timelines, modified by contemporary writers with Messiah complex issues.
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That's like saying there's only 1 Superman in the DC multiverse.
Roman Catholic Jesus is the New 52 Superman of the Bible. All other versions are secondary and not part of the mainline continuity.
There are various versions of Jesus, as there are various versions of the Bible. Just like there are various versions of Superman.
Roman Catholic Jesus is not necessarily the strongest version, but it is the original version of Jesus.
CCC? You mean the Gregorian calendar?
Then Roman Catholic Jesus > Eastern Orthodox Jesus >>> other Jesuses.
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Last edited by AsbestosFlaygon on Jan 15th, 2015 at 09:48 PM
But the "New 52" is new and not an original source, hence "New" in the title. So your analogy is closer to Mormonism, where it's the new(er) kid on the block and states "My Jesus is the correct Jesus; the rest of you older religions are not right anymore".
CCC = Christian Chronology Calendar
That isn't a date, we need dates!
Also, Eastern Ortho is just about as old as mainstream Catholicism at its roots, they just split off in the 11th century because the Greeks and Latin speakers had an argument over beard or something. But I'll give you that, Roman > Ortho
They are the same Church as the Roman Catholic, they had a schism with the around the, Sixth or Seventh Vatican Council? The popes are representatives of the churches established by the original apostles and (except for the Russian Orthodox Church I think) can be traced back for one of them as their respective Patriarch. The Roman Catholics were themselves traceable from the early Church established by Saint Peter. During the 20th Century both the Roman Catholics and the Eastern Catholics removed each other's excommunications.