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chewie successfully killed an entire squad of stormtroopers and managed to escape when Vader tried to kill him, beat a fully prepped Dengar (one of the best bounty hunters in the galaxy) in a fist fight, survived two galactic wars, killed several armed trandoshan hunters with just his fists while he was still a teen, slaughtered dozens of the more highly trained stormtroopers in TFA, killed a rancor in close combat with a battle-axe, fought and barely managed to beat a solid bounty hunter that gave Obiwan Kenobi problems, and he's ripped the limbs off of battle droids and super battle droids. He might not be as agile as beast, but I'd say that he's at least stronger and that bowcaster of his is a menace.


I only know Chewie from the movies and maybe one novel, so a lot of this isn't known to me (assuming it's even valid), but I have to ask what strength you'd put him at because Beast is in the multi-ton range.


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Worf loses, but he is awesome because he helped set up one of the funniest moments in Trek history:


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I only know Chewie from the movies and maybe one novel, so a lot of this isn't known to me (assuming it's even valid), but I have to ask what strength you'd put him at because Beast is in the multi-ton range.
definitely multi ton range. I like you to draw your own conclusions regarding his strength, so here's some feats.

Prevents a cave in by replacing the support beam with himself.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...cca+003-003.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...cca+003-004.jpg

Pushes a massive tree out of the ground. Note that chewie is somewhere around seven feet tall and then notice the size of the tree roots alone.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...cca+003-011.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...cca+003-013.jpg

Punches through a solid boulder while still he's not at his best and even makes a crater when he slams Black Krrsantan into the ground.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...%29+014-007.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...%29+014-008.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...%29+014-017.jpg


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definitely multi ton range. I like you to draw your own conclusions regarding his strength, so here's some feats.

Prevents a cave in by replacing the support beam with himself.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...cca+003-003.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...cca+003-004.jpg

Pushes a massive tree out of the ground. Note that chewie is somewhere around seven feet tall and then notice the size of the tree roots alone.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...cca+003-011.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...cca+003-013.jpg

Punches through a solid boulder while still he's not at his best and even makes a crater when he slams Black Krrsantan into the ground.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...%29+014-007.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...%29+014-008.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...%29+014-017.jpg


That's some impressive stuff.


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That's some impressive stuff.
thumb up yeah, he had some really impressive feats before, but Disney is seriously playing up his strength and durability while giving him his previous level of intelligence. Again, I think that the team wins. Worf might be weaksauce in comparison to beast, but he can still serve as a viable distraction (he does have a blaster too) and chewie's bowcaster means that beast really has to close the gap and once he does (assuming that he can dodge that blaster fire without anything to jump off of/move around), he then has to deal with a trained Starfleet officer and a wookie veteran of multiple wars.


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thumb up yeah, he had some really impressive feats before, but Disney is seriously playing up his strength and durability while giving him his previous level of intelligence. Again, I think that the team wins. Worf might be weaksauce in comparison to beast, but he can still serve as a viable distraction (he does have a blaster too) and chewie's bowcaster means that beast really has to close the gap and once he does (assuming that he can dodge that blaster fire without anything to jump off of/move around), he then has to deal with a trained Starfleet officer and a wookie veteran of multiple wars.


Honestly, if it was the movies, I would say Beast steamrolls, but looking at the comics (what you've shown me at least), I wouldn't put it past the team to win.


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isn't wookie a jungle/forest species? I hadn't seen all the movies or toons but I could maybe see chewie doing better in the fight too. maybe a high and low technique where chewie attacks from the treetops


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isn't wookie a jungle/forest species? I hadn't seen all the movies or toons but I could maybe see chewie doing better in the fight too. maybe a high and low technique where chewie attacks from the treetops


From playing KOTOR I remember the wookie homeworld was a bunch of forests.


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From playing KOTOR I remember the wookie homeworld was a bunch of forests.
yes, their planet is one giant forest and is also inhabited by creatures that can easily kill the unprepared and foolhardy.


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He did well against Danger but that was OOC.On average he's lackluster. Im curious what feats people are drawing from that place him the winner. Ape Beast? Classic Hank? Cat beast sucks ass


I take it you think Beast is above either individually to place them both against him then?


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I take it you think Beast is above either individually to place them both against him then?


Physically yes. There's no denying that. Even if i were to highball the team they wouldn't match him feat wise. But Beast is physically above alot of chars...it's his skill or lack thereof that makes me think it's a fight.


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Physically yes. There's no denying that. Even if i were to highball the team they wouldn't match him feat wise. But Beast is physically above alot of chars...it's his skill or lack thereof that makes me think it's a fight.
and his best strength and durability feats are? He might be more agile, but I have doubts about those other two fields.


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and his best strength and durability feats are? He might be more agile, but I have doubts about those other two fields.


Knocking blob over is probably his best. But that was original xmen hank


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Knocking blob over is probably his best. But that was original xmen hank
original x-men Hank also lost to black panther iirc.


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Horse face no. Cat thing yes. He evolved past ape years ago which is odd because cats are below big apes evolutionary wise...maybe he's devolving. Id put money on a tiger before id place bets on a big cat over a great ape...and reptiles stomp both


Cats are only below apes intelligence wise. Everything else, they stomp.

Cats >>>>> Any and all apes ever. Even Gigantopithecus.


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eh... its an X-comic. Way to soapy for me to every follow seriously. I just know Beast has way to high of Comic Bookey Feats for poor Chewie and especially BIG LOSER Worf to handle.


So I'm not the only one who can't stand X-soapyness.

That was actually one of my pet peeve's with Secret Wars I. Big reality altering villain, and Jan's more concerned with getting laid by their arch villain and then pretending he kidnapped her.

Plus fights, 'cause random fighting is edgy or something. (And seriously, does anybody recognize what actress the water sprite Enchantress is supposed to be modeled after? It's obvious they're making a reference to someone..)


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Punches through a solid boulder while still he's not at his best and even makes a crater when he slams Black Krrsantan into the ground.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...%29+014-007.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...%29+014-008.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...%29+014-017.jpg
I was just about to mention this, but I'm glad someone else already did. thumb up

That right there is an extremely uber strength/striking feat -- that boulder was huge, yet one punch from Chewie pulverized it. thumb up

Moreover, it was clear that a healthy Chewie > Black Krrsantan... And Krr is ridiculously strong in his own right.


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(And seriously, does anybody recognize what actress the water sprite Enchantress is supposed to be modeled after? It's obvious they're making a reference to someone..)


I don't. Who is it?


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I don't. Who is it?


That's what I've been trying to figure out for years.

She has that really slim anarexic look that was becoming popular at the time, and at the end of her oracling she says "Can I go down the drain now?", which sounds like a jab at someone's career. smile


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