I know nothing about Norway, but are we talking about similar socio-economic backgrounds here?
A person living in a decent environment with solid job prospects vs someone living in a ghetto, huge difference.
It's like trying to compare India with Japan. Most are dirt poor in India, so of course you'll get a lot more crime/exploitation.
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"Yeah, well, China and India grossly under-enforce the law and their prisons are so empty because it is nearly impossible to catch, prosecute, and incarcerate all their criminals."
I honestly have no retort or rebuttal to that argument. It very well could be true. Perhaps the US is 30x more effective and catching and prosecuting criminals compared to India and China.
Perhaps someone more directly educated in Criminology could inject some intelligence into this particular point? The closest I can come to exploring this point would be the idea of arrests vs. reports. Meaning, does the US vastly differ from places like China and India, on available data on victim reports/surveys and arrests?
TL - DR summary of the above: treat drug problems reduces drug selling, recidivism, drug use, and costs much less.
This is part of why I'm such a strong advocate of legalizing all drugs and spending just 1/10th of the Drug War money on healthcare.
Is there any research out there for crime and universal healthcare? There should be a positive correlation between an inverse relationship between UHC and crime rates. That's my guess. No way that could be anything but a minimum of statistically significant.
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Well I don’t believe in nationalized healthcare anyways so that’s not a part of my position.
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1. Ditch for profit prisons. They have no actual benefit to society and are counter productive. If someone is profiting off of someone else being incarcerated then there will inevitably be a conflict of interest. It's unavoidable.
2. Minimize/remove non violent drug offenses. No one should do hard time for doing a drug in their own home. Instead, legalize things like weed and treat it as we treat alcohol and tobacco, both of which are more harmful than weed. Tax it, regulate it. For other harder drugs, instead of sending users to do hard time, send them to get help for their addictions. The goal should be to get them off drugs, not ruin their lives even more.
3. The goal for everything should be rehabilitation if it is at all possible rather than stark punishment. Once someone has been rehabilitated get them out of the prison system and back into society on the grounds that they have to contribute in some way - join the military, make sure they have a job, go to school, etc.
There should also be no mandatory minimum sentences. Those things are stupid and achieve diddly shit.
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All I'm gonna say is...why don't we take child molesters and murderers and execute them and harvest their body parts for organ donations?
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These things all make sense, and I wish there was a way to reform the system.
I mean, try telling the people profiting off the system "Hey, you shouldn't be profiting off this!"
Or worse, tell the people we need to jack up taxes to pay for better, more humane prisons. And then making sure the administrators and legislators properly use those funds..
Biggest problem is motive. Profit, EVERYONE is for it. But sacrificing for a social good..? If anyone's really motivated by abstract ethics, there sure doesn't seem to be enough of them.
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I'd trade a world of lawful evil over the neutral evil/chaotic evil we seem to have now.
At least those who suffer cruel and unusual punishment's will mostly deserve them for a change.. (Vs the opposition "true neutral", or "lawful good" we have now, who basically send the evil murderers and rapists of the world into a cell with cable TV.. Rest in hell, Charles Manson..)
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