Priest
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan777
Beyonder never layed a finger on LT or any cosmic being except the celestials
We only see LT when the multiverse is in danger, Classic Beyonder was threating the Multiverse, all the abtracts including LT was there trying to reason with the Beyonder to no avail..The Beyonder dident fight the abstracts because he dident reguard LT and the other abstracts as a threat to him.
thats wat i meant when Lt got b*tched by the beyonder.
Nov 1st, 2006 03:12 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Priest
We only see LT when the multiverse is in danger, Classic Beyonder was threating the Multiverse, all the abtracts including LT was there trying to reason with the Beyonder to no avail..The Beyonder dident fight the abstracts because he dident reguard LT and the other abstracts as a threat to him.
thats wat i meant when Lt got b*tched by the beyonder.
Or did LT choose to not fight because he knew that Molecule Man would beat the Beyonder in the end? I mean LT is omniscent afterall....
The world may never know
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Nov 1st, 2006 03:17 PM
Priest
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan777
Or did LT choose to not fight because he knew that Molecule Man would beat the Beyonder in the end? I mean LT is omniscent afterall....
The world may never know
indeed
but still very suspect on LT part if true.
But we cant assume LT knew wat was going to happen in the end.
Nov 1st, 2006 03:23 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Priest
indeed
but still very suspect on LT part if true.
But we cant assume LT knew wat was going to happen in the end.
With omniscents (knowledge of all that has, does, or will ever exist) you would think LT should have known that MM would eventually beat the Beyonder, but thats just my oppinion...
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Nov 1st, 2006 03:33 PM
Priest
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan777
With omniscents (knowledge of all that has, does, or will ever exist) you would think LT should have known that MM would eventually beat the Beyonder, but thats just my oppinion...
I like ur thinking..
BUT why did LT even bother to fight Thanos with HOTU if he knew that he wouldent win?
I know LT is omniscent, but if he trully knew wat the out come of the future is gonna be, he wouldent have lost the way he did.
Nov 1st, 2006 04:45 PM
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I'm not sure Vertigo actually has a canon, seems to be just random adult themed stories.
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Nov 1st, 2006 11:16 PM
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But the series was still a masterpiece !
True enough.
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Nov 2nd, 2006 01:00 AM
King Kandy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Priest
Id say on average showings the Living Tribunal should be able to take down spectre, he can effortly put down the IG when Adam had control of it, that power there.
Classic Beyonder without a dout can take on spectre, he made LT and the rest of the marvel cosmic his ***** on pannel.
Thanos with HOTU would take down spectre, unless spectre was backed up by the presence 100% it would be a stailmate.
HOTU would still win. The presence cannot give Spectre ALL of it's power, it must leave some remaining.
Nov 2nd, 2006 01:04 AM
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Spectre backed by God is unbeatable
The only one who could beat him would be God, no one else would stand a chance
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Nov 2nd, 2006 01:09 AM
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LU I can't beleive you forgot The Cosmic Mother.
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Nov 2nd, 2006 12:59 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Priest
I like ur thinking..
BUT why did LT even bother to fight Thanos with HOTU if he knew that he wouldent win?
I know LT is omniscent, but if he trully knew wat the out come of the future is gonna be, he wouldent have lost the way he did.
See there again, you could argue that since LT is omniscent, he would have known that eventually Thanos would restore everything to how it was, and it would no longer matter if he "lost" when he did because it wouldn't last indefinatley....
This is all just my oppinion though, but if LT is truly omniscent then I think it makes perfect sense
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Nov 2nd, 2006 02:17 PM
King Kandy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan777
See there again, you could argue that since LT is omniscent, he would have known that eventually Thanos would restore everything to how it was, and it would no longer matter if he "lost" when he did because it wouldn't last indefinatley....
This is all just my oppinion though, but if LT is truly omniscent then I think it makes perfect sense
Maybe he figured "I'll probably lose, and Thanos will just restore everything, so no loss. On the other hand, I could actualy win, and save everyone a whole bunch of trouble".
Nov 2nd, 2006 03:30 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by King Kandy
Maybe he figured "I'll probably lose, and Thanos will just restore everything, so no loss.
Thats basically what I'm saying...
quote: (post ) Originally posted by King Kandy
On the other hand, I could actualy win, and save everyone a whole bunch of trouble".
Well you have to think of LT as though he is truly omniscent, so if thats true, then LT would have never thought he might win because he would have known what would happen to him once he started fighting Thanos....
But we will probably never know
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Nov 2nd, 2006 03:34 PM
MightyEInherjar
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IMO:
LT
Thanos w/ HOTU
TOAA
PR Beyonder
...Mufassa.
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Nov 2nd, 2006 09:50 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
IMO:
LT
Thanos w/ HOTU
TOAA
PR Beyonder
Nah its more like:
TOAA
Thanos /w/ THOTU
PR Beyonder
LT
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Nov 2nd, 2006 11:38 PM
King Kandy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan777
Thats basically what I'm saying...
Well you have to think of LT as though he is truly omniscent, so if thats true, then LT would have never thought he might win because he would have known what would happen to him once he started fighting Thanos....
But we will probably never know
That's not how omnescience works. He saw all the possible outcomes, and saw that he had a 99.99999% chance of losing, and beings restored, and a slight but nonzero chance of winning. So, the worst thing that could happen was that he would be restored. So, he figured, why not take a chance?
Nov 2nd, 2006 11:41 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by King Kandy
That's not how omnescience works. He saw all the possible outcomes, and saw that he had a 99.99999% chance of losing, and beings restored, and a slight but nonzero chance of winning. So, the worst thing that could happen was that he would be restored. So, he figured, why not take a chance?
The definition of Omniscent straight from webster is:
"having infinite knowledge, knowing all things"
so LT would have absolutley known what would happen to him when he confronted Thanos, and he also would have known that everything would eventually be restored to how it was in the end.
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Nov 2nd, 2006 11:51 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lord Urizen
But the series was still a masterpiece !
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Nov 3rd, 2006 05:56 PM
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Nov 3rd, 2006 08:57 PM
King Kandy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan777
The definition of Omniscent straight from webster is:
"having infinite knowledge, knowing all things"
so LT would have absolutley known what would happen to him when he confronted Thanos, and he also would have known that everything would eventually be restored to how it was in the end.
This can't have happened. The future in Marvel isn't laid out like that. If only one thing could happen, then there would be no "Alternate universes."
Nov 4th, 2006 12:16 AM
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