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He maybe can survive a heart rip, but he hasn't proved it.

Kang was up against a multiversal Magus who existed in almost everytimeline when he prepped and dissipated that multiversal Magus. Fact.
Magus wasn't defeated By kang nor did his plan actually bring about Magus' death. I mean taking on a weakened Magus with a cc and they still couldn't defeat him.

The comic implies he can the comic also implies in his weakened state he couldn't overcome a cc that's why he did what he did.


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Magus wasn't defeated By kang nor did his plan actually bring about Magus' death. I mean taking on a weakened Magus with a cc and they still couldn't defeat him.

The comic implies he can the comic also implies in his weakened state he couldn't overcome a cc that's why he did what he did.



Kang made Magus retreat effectively saving all time-lines and erasing a multiversal Magus. He cared so much about killing Magus that now he's fighting the Avengers yet again.

Kang's scheme thriumphed, Magus scheme failed. Fact.


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Kang made Magus retreat effectively saving all time-lines and erasing a multiversal Magus. He cared so much about killing Magus that now he's fighting the Avengers yet again.

Kang's scheme thriumphed, Magus scheme failed. Fact.
Magus wasn't defeated by Kang and despite in two separate arcs and Kang having onesided prep both attempts failed at beating the Magus. If Magus goes right after these two they go down very quickly. Thor alone was enough to crush a prepped Doom. Thor can also destroy kang as well.


Magus adapted on the fly against a cc while weakened.


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Kang made Magus retreat effectively saving all time-lines and erasing a multiversal Magus. He cared so much about killing Magus that now he's fighting the Avengers yet again.

Kang's scheme thriumphed, Magus scheme failed. Fact.
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He didn't kill the Magus.


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With the prep the team take it.


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Magus wasn't defeated by Kang and despite in two separate arcs and Kang having onesided prep both attempts failed at beating the Magus. If Magus goes right after these two they go down very quickly. Thor alone was enough to crush a prepped Doom. Thor can also destroy kang as well.


Magus adapted on the fly against a cc while weakened.



Its a good feat that Magus adapted, but let's be honest, it was the Guardians pulling the trigger, they are not exactly impressive. Also its quite absolutely irrelevant to this thread.

Saying Kang had "onesided prep" when he was being chased by a Magus who controlled the multiverse, who he had to oppose and he managed to best with prep -you can say future multiversal Magus had prep on Kang and he still failed to succeed-, its quite twisting the context.

You could argue that Thor crushing Doom or Kang with prep is PIS. You could also argue that Magus hasn't shown anything beyond Thor either.


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With the prep the team take it.
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Its a good feat that Magus adapted, but let's be honest, it was the Guardians pulling the trigger, they are not exactly impressive. Also its quite absolutely irrelevant to this thread.

Saying Kang had "onesided prep" when he was being chased by a Magus who controlled the multiverse, who he had to oppose and he managed to best with prep -you can say future multiversal Magus had prep on Kang and he still failed to succeed-, its quite twisting the context.

You could argue that Thor crushing Doom or Kang with prep is PIS. You could also argue that Magus hasn't shown anything beyond Thor either.
A weakened Magus was stomping the guardians and the only reason the won was due to Kang and the cc. They didn't even win Magus got them to think they did.

Kang sent a guy back with the cc against a Magus who hadn't prepped for him ye still adapted and resisted the attempt at his life.

Kang can't escape Magus in this thread.


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Despite your weak attempts to make this confrontation look as if Kang failed at his propose, notice that Kang never said Magus had to be killed, he said they had to do whatever it takes. They did.

Magus managed to survive with fast reflexes and adaptability, that in no way or form makes him a better prepper than either Kang or Doom.


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Despite your weak attempts to make this confrontation look as if Kang failed at his propose, notice that Kang never said Magus had to be killed, he said they had to do whatever it takes. They did.

Magus managed to survive with fast reflexes and adaptability, that in no way or form makes him a better prepper than either Kang or Doom.
Yes, it most certainly does. Magus would annihilate Kang and Doom if those were his targets. The problem with the Magus is he usually tries to dominate the universe and catches resistance from all sides but him just going after this two it's easy. They already failed against a much weaker Magus when they got the drop on him.


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Yes, it most certainly does. Magus would annihilate Kang and Doom if those were his targets. The problem with the Magus is he usually tries to dominate the universe and catches resistance from all sides but him just going after this two it's easy.


That's your opinion.


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They already failed against a much weaker Magus when they got the drop on him.



Another version of the character with 5 ccu who survived by chance and which you consider a separate character, great argument.


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That's your opinion.





Another version of the character with 5 ccu who survived by chance and which you consider a separate character, great argument.
Which is supported by the comics.

You originally were arguing against this Magus and he's far less formidable than Adam Magus.


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Which is supported by the comics.



Mine is supported by comics too, a pretty redundant statement wink


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You originally were arguing against this Magus and he's far less formidable than Adam Magus.



That other Magus lost, you haven't proved he's less formidable.

I know you like to have the last word Quanchi, so we'll leave it at that so others can make up their own judgements of what we discussed.


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Mine is supported by comics too, a pretty redundant statement wink





That other Magus lost, you haven't proved he's less formidable.

I know you like to have the last word Quanchi, so we'll leave it at that so others can make up their own judgements of what we discussed.
Magus is above the both of them when he shows up whereas they aren't anywhere near him.

Every Magus loses eventually just like Kang and Doom when they are the villains bu the point is he needed someone else, time travel, and a cc to defeat a weakened Magus and he still got out of it.


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Faith energy requires the user to use INTENT to activate its effect. Magus didn't use such INTENT when crushing the guardians.
It was completely him.
He gauged his opponents instantly....and handled them with ease.
Kang was aware of this and sent highly efficient kamakaze soldiers to do what he couldn't.


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Faith energy requires the user to use INTENT to activate its effect. Magus didn't use such INTENT when crushing the guardians.
It was completely him.
He gauged his opponents instantly....and handled them with ease.
Kang was aware of this and sent highly efficient kamakaze soldiers to do what he couldn't.
So you're siding with Magus, right?


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So you're siding with Magus, right?


Yeah, the whole time.


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Yeah, the whole time.
Yeah, I think it's a stomp.


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