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Superman nerve striking Batgod? I guess the writer left the country after the issue release?


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he better have


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No, he was sent over to Marvel and given control of Hulk titles and the Ultimates.


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Originally posted by Juk3n
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You're reading to much into this. Heres the short version. There should be no argument after this.. are you ready?

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I say Superman is completely comfortable in this new body, his mind is totally at ease, he feels better than ever infact. He hasnt got his powers, but he's got the same brain/skills learned and physically he's in an exact replica of Cyke's body. So there is no disadvantage there. It's a skill battle, thats all it is.

Easy as pie to follow, only someone with some sort of mental ..blah blah

Not that im saying you're a mentalist or anything.

Well maybe just a little, afterall you are the ONLY one in this thread who see's an issue that isnt there.
Wow. You just short of called me a retard. F off.


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Wow. You just short of called me a retard. F off.


I did no such thing, you gave me the impression you were a bit slow by having me explain the same - easy to grasp point - 3 times. The point that everyone got except you, what does the evidence say? Either you were intentionally being difficult, or..?? You genuinely needed me walk you through the proposed battle. Maybe next time you just respond to a thread properly instead of creating issues that don't exist.


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Obviously, i wouldnt make a thread and intentionaly put superman in a body he's completley unfamiliar with..that would be retarded and anyone assuming so would be a retard.



you say you did no such thing as to calling people retards.... but here you start attacking people and calling them retards if they don't agree with you.

"similar" and "same" are two different words..
superman can be similar to a human... but he is not the same.

superman has advanced humanoid physiology...
he is incredibly smart
can see farther
has superhuman reaction times
his biology itself is different..

for all we know a kryptonian under a red sun could be stronger. faster. smarter... than a baseline human. but it would be virtually impossible to prove that a kryptonian under a red sun is the same as a baseline human under a red sun...

but if what you want to say is superman under the effects of red sunlight... vs scott with his mutant ability deactivated... you'd probably have the thread you want...

and stop going to calling other people retards... slow... etc..


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No, he was sent over to Marvel and given control of Hulk titles and the Ultimates.


Ah, of course... only Loeb could've done something like that.


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superman has a death ray in his eyes too......and much, much more.


still, based on his training/trainers, it wouldn't make sense for cyke to be superior.


So the gap of power between Cyclops human hands and his ultra eyes is comparable to the gap between Superman's hands and his heat vision?


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yeah? well i blame you for Elektra and for Blade the musi..er.. i mean Blade 3.

Suck that down.


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you say you did no such thing as to calling people retards.... but here you start attacking people and calling them retards if they don't agree with you.

"similar" and "same" are two different words..
superman can be similar to a human... but he is not the same.

superman has advanced humanoid physiology...
he is incredibly smart
can see farther
has superhuman reaction times
his biology itself is different..

for all we know a kryptonian under a red sun could be stronger. faster. smarter... than a baseline human. but it would be virtually impossible to prove that a kryptonian under a red sun is the same as a baseline human under a red sun...

but if what you want to say is superman under the effects of red sunlight... vs scott with his mutant ability deactivated... you'd probably have the thread you want...

and stop going to calling other people retards... slow... etc..


that would be true, except for the fact that there are dozens of appearences of non-powered kryptonians (including superman).


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Cyclops has trained everyday since he was a teenager and Clark trains two months with Bats and suddenly he's better?


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Cyclops has trained everyday since he was a teenager and Clark trains two months with Bats and suddenly he's better?


if cyclops spent every day of his life training in h2h combat, he'd be a lot more well respected than he is atm both in comics and in the fandom.

tbh, i don't think he spent as much time training in h2h as he did in the use of his powers and his own physical fitness (though yes, MA can be a part of that).


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To be fair his phychic abilities are impressive for a non-psychic.


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To be fair his phychic abilities are impressive for a non-psychic.


its like he said, he dated one of the world's top telepaths for about a decade, and managed to keep things from her. his own father figure (probably the best out and out tp in marvel) trained all the x-men in counter-tp techniques (which means cyke would have had the most training), and of course he's now dating emma frost lol...


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Eh, Colossus mentioned that he spent at least 5 hours in the danger room almost every day. It has been mentioned on several occasions how often the x-men train and practice their powers/tactics/etc. Naturally this doesn't mean that Cyke works on martial arts and such every day, but at least a good couple of times a week.


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Eh, Colossus mentioned that he spent at least 5 hours in the danger room almost every day. It has been mentioned on several occasions how often the x-men train and practice their powers/tactics/etc. Naturally this doesn't mean that Cyke works on martial arts and such every day, but at least a good couple of times a week.


aye.


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Eh, Colossus mentioned that he spent at least 5 hours in the danger room almost every day.


Colossus is such a slacker cool


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that would be true, except for the fact that there are dozens of appearences of non-powered kryptonians (including superman).


which kryptonians exhibited absolutely no superpowers after being exposed to yellow sun light?


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which kryptonians exhibited absolutely no superpowers after being exposed to yellow sun light?


you mean red sunlight?


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Superman easily


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no. i mean yellow. you said there are plenty of instances of kryptonians without superpowers... and since their superpower is derived from yellow sunlight... for your comment to be true... you would have to show me that not all kryptonians get superpowers from yellow sunlight.


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