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List of changes from orignaltrilogy.com

1. Doing a complete colour correction.
2. Rebuilding the sound mix with new sound FX.
3. Re-rotoscoping all the lightsabers to fix colour (and other) errors.
4. Re-rotoscoping all of the laser blasts for consistency.
5. Attempting to fix spaceship/snowspeeder transparency issues.
6. TIEs will be blue and ANH:RHD will have blue TIEs also
7. Replacing/enhancing starfields.
8. fixing as many garbage mattes as possible.
9. recoloured R2's black panels to blue

MAIN THINGS BEING DONE:

1 - New 20th Century Fox opening
2 - New recreated opening crawl
3 - Fixed juddering starfield as camera pans as probes fly away from the belly of stardestroyer
4 - Added flames as probe enters atmosphere
5 - Replaced pinks streak with flames for when probe crashes
6 - Removed footprints in snow when probe crashes
7 - Added crater debris when probe emerges to match previous close-up shot
8 - Smoothed Taun-taun stop motion animation.
9 - Flipped shot of probe crashes when Luke see it to match the first time we see the crash
10 - Enhanced binoculars display
11 - New shot of Han on Taun-Taun when he is speaking to Luke
12 - New Wampa
13 - Flipped the Wampa's arm as it looks like he is back swiping Luke because they used the wrong arm
14 - Removed boom mic reflection in Luke's goggles
15 - Removed puppeteersí arm (done before the blu-ray fix)
16 - New matte of rebel hangar entrance
17 - Changed Falcons turret gun in all studio set shots to match the studio model
18 - Swapped hair colour or rebels when Leia is watching Han as he enters command centre to help fix issue with flipped shot
19 - Covering Anthony Daniel's neck which is visible while Han calls over the Deck Officer.
20 - Re-edited the Wampa cave scene to closer match the original theatrical version, eliminating all SE additions (apart from one shot)
21 - Altered position of lightsaber in the snow so it is more covered to match the way it is buried in other shots
22 - Lukeís legs position changed from open to closed when hanging form ceiling of cave to match their position as he tries to break free
23 - Lukeís sabre now retracts as he runs out of cave
24 - Expanding the size of the hangar interior when seen from outside the hangar doors in the shot where R2 is using his scanner and added more troops/pilots
25 - Altered scenery slightly when Han walks away from Taun Taun
26 - Changed the scenery seen outside of the hangar before they close the doors
27 - Fixed a continuity issue where the door starts to close twice in this scene
28 - Added a "force" glow around Obi-Wan's ghost
29 - Added motion blur when Taun Taun falls
30 - Flipped 2 shots when Han cuts open Taun Taun to fix continuity issue
31 - Added lightsaber scorch march when Taun Taun is cut open
32 - Added cockpit displays to snowpseeders
33 - Added clouds to background of snowspeeder as it flies around mountain to help fix continuity issues
34 - Eliminated many of the transparent cockpit issues in snowspeeders throughout
35 - Changed colour of chest box decal from green back to the correct blue
36 - New snowspeeder as Han waves and added speeders shadow
37 - You now see 2 speeders entering hangar
38 - Bacta tank colour changed to red (its original colour was supposed to be red but the overhead lighting was too bright and it bleached out the redness of the tank while filming)
39 - New shot of probe leaving the Shield Generator
40 - Fixed the problem of the mound Han is behind during the wipe having the debris from the destroyed probe already covering it.
41 - Probe now continues to move as it fires at Chewie and actually shoots at Chewie instead of firing towards a different area
42 - The two shots we see of the probe now match, where originally the lighting completely changed between shots and had eliminated all detail in the scenery
43 - Added missing blast flashes to all guns throughout movie
44 - all laser bolts changed to match ANH:R and the PT
45 - Fixed "wobbly" panel when Leia presses the consol button
46 - Altered path of stardestroyer in first fleet shot so it doesn't look like it is just dropping down the frame
47 - Altered path of distant stardestroyers to give them a more natural movement
48 - fixed problem of TIE flying behind the stardestroyer tower causing scaling problems and replaced all TIES in this shot apart from Bomber
49 - Altered the shadow seen on the underbelly of executor in close-up shot to match other shots.
50 - Fixed bluescreen matte problems of rear side of stardestroyer tower on executor underbelly shot
51 - added missing TIE engines on all shots throughout movie
52 - Replaced the Tie fighter that heads towards Executor taking a strange path and altered position of stardestroyers
53 - repositioned stardestroyer and added new TIE bombers to close up shot of Vader looking out of window
54 - Altered matte of Executor bridge in all shots
55 - Altered background of Vader to a more correct background when he is talking to Ozzel
56 - New rebel transport hangar matte to correct scaling issues
57 - Fixed the object next to Han that get knocked while he is talking to Luke, yet appear in original position in next shot
58 - Added "Blue" engines to all stardestroyers
59 - Added atmosphere glow around Hoth in all shots it is missing
60 - Enhanced display when Vader chokes Ozzel
61 - Fixed matting issue when Vader chokes Ozzel where you can see Piette's body through the display surrounding wall
62 - Altered distant view of Hoth battlefield to fix continuity issue as original was heavily mist covered , yet not when we see the At-At's
63 - Original shield generator mattes replaced with miniature model in all shots
64 - New hangar entrance shot where trooper is viewing battlefield
65 - Enhanced displays in command centre as they prepare to fire Ion Canon
66 - Enhanced Ion Canon with new background and added troops
67 - Moved "First Catch" Imperial officers to the front window of their Star Destroyer to fix continuity error as they would not see the planet from the side window.
68 - Added more stardestroyers orbiting Hoth
69 - Ion canon blast altered from red to blue
70 - Added the destruction of one of the escort X-Wings before stardestroyer is hit with ion blast.
71 - Added the transport and remaining fighter going into lightspeed.
72 - New background to replace destroyed landscape before a shot is fired as troops rush to trench wall.
73 - New binocular shot at AT-ATs approaching
74 - Removing red AT-AT window as this is the only time we see the cockpit as red
75 - Added missing red marking to on-set Snowspeeders
76 - New shot of snowspeeders approaching battle
77 - Fixed missing or faded blue decals on pilots chest boxes
78 - Added snowspeeder flaps opening and closing to cockpit shots
79 - Removed static At-AT's when seen though the front of the cockpits and replaced them with animated ones and the correct number of AT-AT's in each shot
80 - Removed the two shots we see of the AT-ST's as they are never seen in any other part of the battle and just disappear
81 - Turret guns barrels now repel when firing instead of being static
82 - Removed the small AT-AT seen through a side view of cockpit because they are still nowhere near the AT-AT's at this point
83 - Added slight motion blur to AT-AT's to give them a more realistic movement.
84 - Replaced original shot of Vaderís hologram due to bad matting issues
85 - Added some minor visible damage to AT-AT neck as it falls
86 - Fixed missing frame from "This one goes here, that one goes there" shot.
87 - Removed the traces of the wires used to fly some of the Snowspeeders
88 - Fixed bad composite of Luke leaping as his Snowspeeder is crushed and fixed scaling of AT-AT foot in this shot
89 - Replaced some snowpeeders in background due to bad movement
90 - Removed stick that knocks over the AT-AT Luke blows up and added Luke in background.
91 - Removed blast mark that was already on turret prior to it getting hit
92 - Added cracks to speeder window as Luke crashes to match the following shots
93 - Added missing detail on crashed snowspeeder set
94 - Added missing decals on Lukeís chest plate as he is getting out of speeder
95 - Removed visible studio set walls during close up of AT-AT foot
96 - Replaced some shots of troopers retreating due to blurred blu-ray transfer
97 - New shield generator explosion to fix badly composited original
98 - Some changed backgrounds during battle for better continuity between studio and location shots
99 - When Luke slices open the AT-AT panel, his lightsaber now correctly doesnít overlap the outer panel of the AT-AT
100 - Fixed the problem with the shorter helmet and missing lights on Vader as they enter the command centre

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101 - Added wall just before the explosion as the Imperials enter the commend centre as there was originally already an entrance, so they didn't need to blow their way in
102 - New hangar miniature set added to replace original matte painting
103 - Removed Chewie going up the ramp when we already see him doing the same thing during the first wide shot
104 - Added motion blur to the falcons gun as it emerges as it was sped up originally and looked fake
105 - smoothed out jump cut as snowtroopers are blasted
106 - New shot of Falcon leaving the hangar
107 - Fixed transparent cockpit just after "punch it" line
108 - Luke now turns around just as the falcon appears instead of completely out of time
109 - New shots of transports taking off
110 - Replaced X-wings as Luke leaves Hoth due to matting/ lighting issues
111 - Stabilised and changed X-wing display showing readout of what R2 is saying to Luke
112 - New Cg falcon & TIEs in many shots to fix scaling/ compositing/ matte box issues
113 - Changed the position of stardestroyers when seen from underneath to fix continuity errors.
114 - removed the imperial officer that just walks away from window as the stardestroyers collide, while all the others are falling over and added a camera shake
115 - New larger asteroid field
116 - Added blue engine to falcon in all shots
117 - Added blast debris to large asteroid as TIEs shoot and hit it
118 - New asteroid canyon
119 - Added light reflection on tunnel wall as the falcon enters the cave
120 - Added atmosphere glow to some shots as Luke approaches Dagobah
121 - New shot of X-wing entering atmosphere
122 - fixed jump cut as the x-wing crashes through the trees
123 - Added camera shake to Lukeís cockpit as it crashes on Dagobah.
124 - New Dagobah matte using miniatures with X-wing in correct position to match the studio version and replaced stop motion bogwings with CG versions
125 - Removed the "glue" from Vader's helmet as it is placed upon his head in meditation chamber
126 - Fixed the problem with Vader having "no neck" in the helmetless scene in the meditation chamber
127 - Fixed problem of Harrison mouthing Carries lines while inside the asteroid
128 - Enhanced Yoda's mouth movements and added some blinks
129 - Removed visible head of Frank Oz
130 - Yoda now takes a bit out of the food stick
131 - Fixed the "greeblies" falling off 3PO's when he interrupts Han and Leia.
132 - Fixed the problem of the Stardestroyer tower just disappearing when hit by an asteroid
133 - New Emperor hologram so he matches closer to his ROTJ appearance than his ROTS "fatter" version
134 - Removing visible signs of plastic sheeting on floor through mist in asteroid belly
135 - Replaced the tool in Han's hand with a blaster when he shoots the Mynock.
136 - Enhancing some Executor interiors to provide a more logical layout and reduce positioning errors.
137 - Changed the position of Yoda as Luke puts him down to fix continuity issue with following shots
138 - Enhanced the colour of R2's "eye" so that is now red/blue instead of pink/purple
139 - Added extra eyes to lizard in "dark side" cave to give it a more alien look
140 - Added glow reflections from lightsabers on certain shots
141 - You now see Vaderís sabre ignite instead of being fully lit, although we hear it igniting
142 - Fixed Lukeís "bent" sabre blade
143 - Fixed jump cut of Vader's mask exploding to reveal Luke face and replaced dummies face with Marks.
144 - Added subtle facial movement to Bossk
145 - Removed visible wires from stone during levitation scene
146 - Fixed the ground that bows under Luke as he walks past Yoda saying "You want the impossible."
147 - New matte as X-wing approaches Luke
148 - Added shot of Yoda climbing up mound to fix continuity error with his position between shots
149 - Replaced Needa's shuttle with Lambda class version
150 - Removed Needa's blink as Vader's cape swipes past him after he dies.
151 - Fixed Anthony Daniels visibly moving while 3PO is turned off.
152 - Slave 1 now flies behind the falcon at a greater distance
153 - Changed certain shots while approaching Cloud City to fix continuity errors with the placement of the sun / clouds
154 - Replaced landing platform matte paintings with version that closer mattes the new buildings seen in the SE and to remove duplicate mattes
155 - Reverted added SE window at the end of the corridor, that suddenly disappears in the next shot, back to the pre-SE version
156 - Re-composited Obi-Wan's ghost so he no longer looks tiny and enhancing his glow and transparency
157 - New Cloud City mattes throughout
158 - Added missing engine glow to pod as it flies through Bespin city in the SE additional shot
159 - Fixed the open SE window behind Lando while he betrays Han and Leia so it remains open in the following shots.
160 - Added laser bolts deflecting off Vaderís hands and hitting the walls which were missing originally, yet you could see the blast marks on the walls
161 - Used the added "sparks" in junk room added for the Blu-Ray but removed the blanket colour filter badly applied to that shot
162 - Removed crew reflection on 3P0's head on conveyor belt
163 - Replaced shots of Lukeís approach to Bespin
164 - Added slight heat haze when Han is tortured
165 - Added missing lights from Vaderís chest plate during this scene
166 - Removed Anthony Daniels face visibly covered in gold foil when Chewie is reassembling him
167 - Fixed the problem with Han in carbonite wearing his ANH shirt instead of the ESB version he was frozen in
168 - Fixed the problem with the door that closes behind Luke having a raised section on the floor that r2 couldn't have possibly have gone through. This section now raises as the door slams shut
169 - Changed Boba platform mattes and added missing cockpit window as it takes off
170 - Fixed transparent shadows in the shot of Lando and company on the SE balcony and raised the balcony. Also replaced R2 in this shot with the pre SE version as the SE one was badly rotoscoped and composited
171 - Removed Vader's visible sabre blade before it ignites
172 - Fixed problem of Vaderís blade disappearing for a frame
173 - Fixed jump cut as Luke steps out of the tunnel
174 - Added Lukeís sabre switching off as he is sucked out of the window
175 - Enhanced chasm mattes to fix continuity issues
176 - Vaderís sabre can now be seen switching off
177 - Added sabre burn marks to walls
178 - New 3D enhanced vane matte
179 - Removed squib markers on walls and Stormtroopers where lasers will hit but adding them where they are missing
180 - Added smoke to r2 as he tries to open door which is there in the close up shots but not in the wide shots
181 - Added turned off lights in corridor ceilings to fix continuity issues
182 - Removed SE additional shots of Vader walking to shuttle and the shuttle approaching and docking with Executor
183 - Added fleeing ships to skyline after Lando calls for the evacuation.
184 - Fixed the piece of the Falcon Chewie knocks 3PO's head into so it doesn't break.
185 - Removed 3po from behind Chewie in cockpit when R2 had already dragged him away
186 - Added missing gun sight from one shot of Leia's gun
187 - The falcon now takes off and retreats faster and the landing gears now retract
188 - added flashing red light on platform floor to fix continuity issues
189 - Changed Lukeís hand getting severed so it doesn't look like his hand is underneath his sleeve
190 - Added lightsaber burn marks when Vader slices through the poles and removed the silver tape
191 - Altered a shot of Luke where you can see his hand underneath his shirt so it is now less visible
192 - Flipped Luke as he falls as originally it looks like his left hand is severed
193 - Fixed Vaderís wobbly helmet during the gantry scene
194 - Replaced the falcon in the shot where it swoops over the cloud so it now flies into the closest cloud before swooping around the farthest one
195 - Altered space shots of the Falcon leaving Bespin
196 - Altered shot of falcon heading towards Executor being pursued by the TIEs so that the TIEs now fire at the Falcon instead of in a different direction
197 - Added shot of Vader walking towards front bridge windows to fix continuity problem
198 - Fixed 3PO's leg in his hand so it doesn't change position between shots.
199 - changed backgrounds of Vader when he telepathically talks to Luke to fix continuity problem
200 - Added smoke to falcons pit as R2 falls down it
201 - Spinning starfield stays
202 - fixed continuity errors of Piette changing sides of the bridge.
203 - Added droids to exterior medical frigate window shot as it pans from the Falcon
204 - replaced Lukeís "fake" arm so it doesn't look like his arm is a model
205 - 2-1B can now be seen deactivating to fix continuity error
206 - Changed the visibility of the "spinning star" as seen through the window to fix continuity issues
207 - Added new ships to fleet
208 - New falcon as it undocks to fix transparency issues with original and throughout this scene to fix trajectory


That's over 200 changes !! mad

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Lucas doesnt understand his own creation. The films themselves remain timeless and great movies that have moments that are in our collective memories.
I like the fact that Lucas enhanced the colour of the originals, but the content of the films didn't need to be tampered with.
The 3 bits that annoy me 1) The changed dialogue in the Emperor's scene in Empire Strikes Back. Not needed, and didn't make sense.

2) Changing Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christensen at the end of ROTJ: disrespectful to the late sebastian Shaw, Luke never saw the young Anakin Skywalker, and Hayden Christensen sucked in the prequels

3) And the most obvious one that all true star wars fans hate: You guessed! always remember everyone HAN SHOT FIRST!!
George Lucas saying "Oh it shows Han as a cold blooded killer that he's not" NO! IT DOES NOT, GEORGE!
It shows Lucas' inability to understand cinema and story telling anymore. That scene is important as it shows Han as a self reliant smuggler who takes no shit from people. Greedo had him at gun point and was taunting him n was boring Han, when I was 5 and saw this for the first time I didn't think Han was a coldblooded killer at all in this scene.
It is important for his redemption at the end when he helps Luke destroy the Death Star. Every Star Wars fan saw that and felt the power of Han redeeming himself. The scene having Greedo shoot first weakens the redemption a bit. George Lucas was the only person in the world who didn't understand that

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Wow, coolmovies, too much time on your hands?

And I agree: Han shot first! wink


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wow. guess star wars got retarded with the blue ray anyway. EP 7 seems ok now

A reminder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27RVJJfny4I

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Maybe he should intercut that scene with an interview with Vader to explain what he was feeling and thinking at the time. It would make that scene so much clearer. And then maybe a voice over by Morgan Freeman, so we all get it.


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Han shot first

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He did.


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did he?

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You have to ask?


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did he?


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Canon proof.


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laughing out loud


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Originally posted by C-3POTheClever
Oh Come on! I can understand why people complain about some of the changes like making Greedo shoot first, adding Hayden Christianson to ROTJ & adding a NOOOOOO into ROTJ, but I think a lot of the other changes did improve the film. The newer versions have much beter quality & couloring. It looks really good & crisb now, & all these added speciel effects., How do they ruin it? I don't even mind the added CGI characters. George was limmited with what he could do bck in the late 70's early 80's, so now he can do more, he might as well improve the films. I think the new emperor scene works so much better tha the original emperor! I'm glad that change was made! And what is the big deal with ewocks blinking? It makes them more realistic! You only hate a lot of these changes, because there not what you saw in star wars in the first place. But they make the originals more consistant with the prequels.


I have no problems with CGI changes in principle, because the OT isn't for me some holy work that can't be altered. But I don't like the Ewoks period, blinking or not. They're silly teddy bears in a supposedly sci-fi film and are absolutely ridiculous imo. They should all be lured into a pit and burnt.

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Agreed.

I would like a good HD version of the original theatrical release of the movies though. After all, those movies are the ones that made history, not the CGI-ed ones.


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Originally posted by LukeStarkiller
I have no problems with CGI changes in principle, because the OT isn't for me some holy work that can't be altered. But I don't like the Ewoks period, blinking or not. They're silly teddy bears in a supposedly sci-fi film and are absolutely ridiculous imo. They should all be lured into a pit and burnt.

Not an Ewok fan either, but they were hardly Teddy bears.
They were looking to cook and eat Luke and Han and Leia.
They probably feasted on dead Storm trooper after the big battle.
Savage little brutes.


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Wonder what Ewok tastes like?


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Wonder what Ewok tastes like?


Like Pussy

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Wonder what Ewok tastes like?

Well, they say you are what you eat, so, probably Storm
Trooper.


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I dont want to see star wars again (97) i just want to see the 77-83 prints but he wants us to forget about these prints forever .
Yes he destroyed them.... NOTHING IS PURE IN THE WORLD NOW!!

The only star wars that exists to me ARE THE ORIGINAL 3 MOVIES (Nothing digital .. The analog masters))

I have part 1 and 3 on VHS in thier analog masters.... I cant find 2 and thats all I want to complete my collection!!

I DO NOT EVER WANNA SEE THE GARBAGE HE CHANGED THEM TO -- COMPLETE DIGITAL TRASH!!!!!!!


I am a TRUE star wars fan!!!!!

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Star Wars is in better hands than it's ever been. Disney will make it greater. Trust me. The new trilogy's villains are utterly fantastic and superior to the previous original trilogy villains.


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