1. Vader's TK is above Zannah's by at least a decent degree. Dooku could likely beat her due to being even more skilled than Vader, and because Soresu seems to be weak against Makashi, though I'm not sure about that.
2. Vader also mind raped Force sensitives only once, 20+ years before ROTJ, and while not even attempting to incapacitate Nick Rostu (he had a task for him, so he wouldn't do that). But fair enough, I won't necessarily claim that he is equal to Zannah , though I did it before. However, it could also be argued that Bane was somewhat weakened in that fight.
3. Bane's preparation has no meaning in this context, considering that, by his own word, defense against sorcery based TP is a matter of willpower:
That didn't mean he was unprepared, however. Dark side sorcery was
complex; it attacked the psyche in ways that were difficult to explain and
even more difficult to defend against. Bane had no talent for it, yet he had
done his best to study the techniques. What he learned was that the only
real counter was the victim's strength of will.
Regular TP , instead, is defended against mainly via mental barriers, at least in its more aggressive applications which means that you can't mentally rape a superior or equal Force user with it.
4.Vader could arguably do that as well.
5.Vader is likely even better than them, and his strenght feats include shattering crystalline pillars while gravely wounded, crushing a stormtrooper's heads, and supporting the weight of a dozen men.
He is also considerably better than them duelling wise, not to the point that he would instantly stomp Zannah, but she stands no chance to last in a duel against him for a long time.
6. Except that duelling wise, he is much better than anyone she has ever faced, and he has mastered a hybrid Djem So style that borrows elements from all combat techniques, which would probaly surprise her.
7. Ragdoll her? No, probably not, but considering that he has Force gripped the Starkiller clone (you know, the same guy who disintegrated half of a 300 mt ship while maintaining a Force shield) years before his prime, I'd doubt that.
And even if I disregarded this example I could argue that Vader performed his best telekinetic feats years or even decades before ROTJ.
Concerning Vader's psychological issues, you don't have to be emotionally stable to have a strong will, so he should be able to resist
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You're posting style is superior to the "debaters" here thas why. If you dont mind me asking, who are you on the Vine?
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Hey Carthage, we don't like you, and you evidently don't like us, so why don't you leave here and go to Comicvine so we can all be at peace.
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Fear and aggravation are two completely different things. Oh yeah, I don't have 2 middle names BTW.
Such is the nature of trolls... such is the nature of Carthage.
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So we're stooping down to the level of 4th graders now? okay how about...hmm
Sidi-Ass 66? Yeah i feel like an imbecile by pulling such a childish insult. i mean geez, talk about how the mighty have fallen. once perhaps you were a respected intellectual and now you have gone so low, that you defend a troll and become one yourself. keep hiding behind that whole "defending him because TOR wank" speech not buying it, you're clearly trying to goad people and as such you yourself are a troll. oh how the not-so mighty have fallen.
No. Carthage is the physical avatar of our Lord Nihilus, so that he may appear as one of the PT era, but in reality he is preparing for our master's arrival. To destroy us suddenly, and without us noticing.
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I do not fear him nor should I.
What?
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I'm glad that you at least considered me mighty and that you respected me, while I barely noticed you.
Emperor is constantly on my case for someone calling someone out on BS or for defending my son, so I'm giving him the attention he craves from me. Get over it the insult wasn't directed at you.
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