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Yoda vs. Valkorion (Force battle)
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Sinious
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Valkorion wins regardless of drain, tbh.

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SunRazer
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When has Valkorion exhibited Drain outside of dubious circumstances?

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Tondemonai
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Originally posted by The Ellimist
He took Sidious's.

Implying Sidious is as strong as Valkorion

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Geistalt
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Implying Sidious is as strong as Valkorion

Implying RotS Sidious isn't stronger than Valkorion

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Tondemonai
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I am

as the majority seems to believe: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t634984.html

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NewGuy01
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Not that I necessarily disagree, but having the majority on your side here doesn't mean squat.

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Jmanghan
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Yoda, and Solidly, at that.

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Ursumeles
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Jman, you gained respect from me. smile

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S_W_LeGenD
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Originally posted by SunRazer
When has Valkorion exhibited Drain outside of dubious circumstances?

What dubious circumstances?

He turned entire Ziost into a battlefield with his own powers.

He have history of siphoning energy of countless subjects before that.

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S_W_LeGenD
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Originally posted by Azronger
Sure.

Now quantify its potency relative to Sidious' Force lightning.

Palpatine's Force Lightning is an example of power of the Dark Side taken to its extreme? laughing out loud

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S_W_LeGenD
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Originally posted by Jmanghan
Yoda, and Solidly, at that.

Empty claim.

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S_W_LeGenD
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Originally posted by MythLord
I think it is already been countered by Nova why the Drain NLF doesn't work.

Force Drain have always been a game-changer in combat situations. As somebody pointed out earlier, Darth Krayt was not in the league of Luke Skywalker and Abeloth but his Force Drain powers were instrumental in leveling the playing field and defeating Abeloth.

Never underestimate Force Drain powers.

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Yoda's connection to and strength in the Force eclipses Valkorion's, and I doubt Valky can one-shot someone more powerful than him with Drain.

Joke of the century.

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Ursumeles
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Empty claim.

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Joke of the century.

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S_W_LeGenD
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Originally posted by The Ellimist
Valkorion doubted that he could easily beat his children, presumably including his drain, let alone Yoda.

A clueless person like you should stay away from this topic.

Valkorion one-shot Arcann in a battle. He could easily kill them.

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S_W_LeGenD
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@Ursumeles

Have you ever made a convincing case for any character in any thread? Not once.

Quoting my statements like that, contributes even more to your failure.

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@Ursumeles

Have you ever made a convincing case for any character in any thread? Not once.

Quoting my statements like that, contributes even more to your failure.

Lol.
RotS is canonically Valkorions superior, and Yoda his equal. Do the math.

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S_W_LeGenD
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Originally posted by Ursumeles
Lol.
RotS is canonically Valkorions superior, and Yoda his equal. Do the math.

That failed logic again.

1. Valkorion is an entity
2. Valkorion is not a Sith
3. Valkorion is a being of unfathomable power (another way of asserting that his powers are beyond the domain of Jedi and/or Sith in general).
4. Valkorion's hype (directly or indirectly) covers the The Ones by the way because TOR content tacitly acknowledges their existence.

There is not a single bloody quote out there that covers Valkorion's story in full and declare Palpatine superior after that. Not a single.

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Ursumeles
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That failed logic again.

Valkorion is not a Sith. Do the math.

I am reffering to this quote:
Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.
--The Complete Visual Dictionary

Valkorion uses Sith power. Do the math.

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S_W_LeGenD
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Originally posted by Ursumeles
I am reffering to this quote:
Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.
--The Complete Visual Dictionary

Valkorion uses Sith power. Do the math.

Year of release = 2006

Fail

The Son also uses Sith powers. Shame on you.

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