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Naga Sadow and Exar Kun vs. Yoda

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Jeez. Yoda gets dismantled. One of those would be more of a fair fight.

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Jeez. Yoda gets dismantled. One of those would be more of a fair fight.


Yoda vs Sadow isn't fair...

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Jeez. Yoda gets dismantled. One of those would be more of a fair fight.
Well, there is that new quote suggesting PoD Bane > every Sith who came before him. So unless someone can refute that, logic dictates that someone like frigging Tenebrous is way better than peak Bane (hell his apprentice Venamis is probably Bane level or better), never mind Plagueis who would become much more powerful by his prime, never mind RotS Sidious, who Yoda stalemated. By all rights Yoda should absolutely demolish both Sith at the same time.

That is if the quote holds up and Baney Stu is better than all Sith who came before him. I've only seen this but haven't studied the source personally:

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>More knowledge than any Sith before him.
>Only has Darth Revan's holocron.

Seems legit.


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>More knowledge than any Sith before him.
>Only has Darth Revan's holocron.

Seems legit.


No, he has Revan's holocron and the Korriban academy's archives.


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No, he has Revan's holocron and the Korriban academy's archives.
I found this way funnier than I should have. laughing out loud


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Did not know archives of Korriban and Revan's holocron> everything else the sith empires possessed. Sounds like a quote that doesn't equate to reality.

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I found this way funnier than I should have. laughing out loud


Kidding aside, I don't think just appeals to personal incredulity constitute enough grounds to dismiss a source on its face.


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I'd like if someone could pull up the whole page where the quote comes from. Ant found it apparently and I've heard through the grapevine it's referring to PoD Bane. That said, Bane was a character before Drew wrote his god awful trilogy, so the fact file is probably referring to peak Bane regardless.


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Bane as a character was only explored up to the PoD era by sources, though. The end of Bane of the Sith was basically the beginning of RoT, which takes place directly after PoD.

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Despite not being explored further at the time, he presumably went on to acquire the knowledge and power to justify the accolade though, surely? That's my take on it. And Drew just fills in the gaps years later.

Peak Bane > everyone before him.


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Well, presumably he continued to grow in knowledge and power, but there was no exposition on him after that time until Karpyshyn came along with his sub-PoD quality novels RoT and DoE.

Regarding how Ant discovered the quote, I believe he later debunked it by saying that it was only referring to PoD Bane being better than all of the Sith of his time (ie. the context of the entire article/page(s) refers to the Sith of his time, not all time). I don't have the source on-hand to verify, though.

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I suspected that might be the case, though the phrasing used doesn't indicate that. "anyone who had come before him" "change the Sith Order forever".


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"Anyone who had come before him" [in recent times], perhaps? Changing the Sith Order forever refers to him implementing the Rule of Two, which was the most successful doctrine of Sith history and resulted in the creation of the most successful Sith Order in history.

Not that I should be complaining, since this can all be used to positively scale Sidious smile

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"Anyone who had come before him" [in recent times], perhaps? Changing the Sith Order forever refers to him implementing the Rule of Two, which was the most successful doctrine of Sith history and resulted in the creation of the most successful Sith Order in history.

Not that I should be complaining, since this can all be used to positively scale Sidious smile
Exactly. Bane started the greatest line of Sith, ever. Ties in with the theme of him being better than all those Sith who came before him.

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@ILS - Well, if it was referring to recent history, that still works, given both the stupidity and the pathetic power levels of the Brotherhood of Darkness - by far the weakest Sith Order intellectually, philosophically and in the Force.

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I imagine it refers to the POD in which case, makes total sense. Makes zero sense in any other context.

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