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It's not that un-PC, plenty of people hate it.

The only un-PC thing to do is to not like people because they like it, which has been seen on these boards before.

Yes, HAL does play chess in 2001 (beating Frank Poole with little difficulty, though sounding apologetic about it); he is 'infallibly' intelligent- however, there is debate in the storyline as to whether he is alive or not (he is interviewed by the BBC, and the interviewer beforehand says that some people thinks he mimics rather than acts).

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: The Monolith thinks he is alive though


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im ...afraid dave
a computer thats afraid?!


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Could be mimiced, though. You can programme a computer to seem like it was afraid. Kubrick leaves it open.


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quote:
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Yes, HAL does play chess in 2001 (beating Frank Poole with little difficulty, though sounding apologetic about it); he is 'infallibly' intelligent- however, there is debate in the storyline as to whether he is alive or not (he is interviewed by the BBC, and the interviewer beforehand says that some people thinks he mimics rather than acts).


Thanx for answering my question. Do you know if he was smarter than the computer from 'War Games'? And do you know what other programs or how many programs he was able to run?


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has anyone saw the sequel?
ive heard it is pretty good
is it worth seeing?


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^^You're talking about 2010 right? When did that one actually come out?
And was it a theatrical release or str8 to DVD?


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not sure when it come out
in the 80's i think


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i just about coped with the slow pace
im still puzzled at the special effects in the film


Well, this was more of a look into the future than sci-fi.

Kubrick was always very deliberate, and very detailed, which exlained the slow pacing.

By the way, though he was wrong with some of the dates, he was pretty damn accurate about his vision of the future.

Can't wait to get to the moon, and Jupiter !!!


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not sure when it come out
in the 80's i think


Wrong, it was made in 1968, which makes this film all the more remarkable.

By the way, this movie was a favorite of the astronauts, becuase Kubrick got it right about spaceflight.


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quote:
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^^You're talking about 2010 right? When did that one actually come out?
And was it a theatrical release or str8 to DVD?


OOPS, SORRY !!!

Didn't keep track here.

You're right 2010 came out in the 1980's.


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quote:
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has anyone saw the sequel?
ive heard it is pretty good
is it worth seeing?



Excellent, though not as deep as the original.

Did a good job of tying up the whole story.


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cool...i'll try and get my hands on it if i can


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Hey Pizza guy..er..dude...er...Warrior, sorry couldn't remember name, Do you know if HAL was smarter than the computer from 'War Games'? And do you know what other programs or how many programs he was able to run? What was his primary function or programming, Space flight?


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Originally posted by PIZZA WARRIOR
Wrong, it was made in 1968, which makes this film all the more remarkable.

By the way, this movie was a favorite of the astronauts, becuase Kubrick got it right about spaceflight.


Well, he got a lot of things right, but he wasn't universal; astronauts tend to be very picky in that regard.

2010 is... ok. Too much chat, too much narration, too much bad use of music, too happy an ending (different from the book) and ironically it dated faster than the original (because the Cold War vibe is overplayed). But well made, the sets have been re-created perfectly, and as a story in its own right it is not bad.

Of course, if you don't like the way Kubrick does films, being so much more mainstream you would probably prefer 2010.


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^^Nice smilie

Btw, can someone please answer my question? sad


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HAL:
Capacity to understand natural languages: natural language processing.

Facility with logic: expert systems and logic programs.

Visual ability to understand what it is seeing: neural networks for image processing.

Ability to monitor and control the spaceship: robotics.

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i have no idea about the computer from war games


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I actually like 2010 better.


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HAL:
Capacity to understand natural languages: natural language processing.

Facility with logic: expert systems and logic programs.

Visual ability to understand what it is seeing: neural networks for image processing.

Ability to monitor and control the spaceship: robotics.

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i have no idea about the computer from war games


Thanx, good show lad thumb up


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He's way past the War Games comp, to be honest.


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