when we first see Haldir walking up at Helms Deep and Theoden says something like "what is this?" - Haldir is walking like he is "the elf"
I am sure he must of died in Lorien, no way would Jackson make the mistake of doing it if he didn't in Lorien
Discos - yet another mis-matched mistake from the books
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"In the year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland, starving and outnumbered, charged the fields at Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsmen. And won their freedom."
Mistake?
Jackson cannot know if Haldir died in Lórien because Tolkien writes nothing about it, in the books there is definitely nothing stating that he died,
But of course there is also nothing saying that he stayed alive,
So this is rather an interpretation, an added idea, not a mistake.
Though I don't like the idea...
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"In the year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland, starving and outnumbered, charged the fields at Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsmen. And won their freedom."
"In the year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland, starving and outnumbered, charged the fields at Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsmen. And won their freedom."
"In the year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland, starving and outnumbered, charged the fields at Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsmen. And won their freedom."
do you think maybe (in the film) Aragorn could have been held responsible for Hadlri's death. Haldir was on the wall and doing not to bad slayings and Aragorn shouted on him distracting him
Also, do ya think maybe (In ROTK) when Theoden says "hail the victorious dead" that Aragorn as a pause before drinking to remember Haldir?
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"In the year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland, starving and outnumbered, charged the fields at Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsmen. And won their freedom."
yeah i also noticed that haldir got attaked soon afta aragorn shouted him which obviously distracted him ??? Is aragorn to blame for this heroes death ... hmmm
If I can remember correctly I think Haldir killed another orc right after Aragorn shouted on him,
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"In the year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland, starving and outnumbered, charged the fields at Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsmen. And won their freedom."
he killed 0one in the process of aragorn shouting him straight afta that he gets attked himself ??? i think its been a day or two since i have watxched it
its been a week and 1 day since I watched it, not that its imortant,
a Urik stabbed him in the back, looked quite soar. But anyways he died none the less in Aragorn's hands and THAT my my lady grim is what makes it sad
Discos - good talk bud
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"In the year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland, starving and outnumbered, charged the fields at Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsmen. And won their freedom."
I would not think Aragorn distracted him when he shouted to retreat back to the keep, because aftwerwards he did kill one before being wounded which led to an attack from the rear. I would not blame Aragorn for Haldir's death, quite possibly a mere seconds of hesitation is all that it would take especially in pitch battle.
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