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finti
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Hell is not a place that we go. It is simply a total disconnection from God. We cannot be sent there by Him, we simply choose not to be connected and in "fellowship" with Him
just like how it is now then

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I connect.. big grin And don't you think that if there was a hell and I was wrong that I would be prodded and feel convicted by God? And here's an interesting thought...(OH..I love it when I do), Would God now send me to hell for not believing in it anymore?

If yes, then...then..I'm screwed.

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Miffed Why if you don't do 2 of the 10C you go tell hell

I heard if you break atleast 2 of the 10 commandments, you go straight to hell.

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where do you go if you break all of them? is there a bonus prize?

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According to the Bible you are forgiven if you try not to repeat them again.

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where do you go if you break all of them? is there a bonus prize?


Ya, you get elected to a political office. laughing

The truth is: hell is right hear on Earth, but so is Heaven, so the choice is yours.


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i was always told that god forgives everybody..... so why is there even a hell?

heaven and hell are indeed on this earth... and they're actually inside you. if you're happy, then you are in heaven. if you're depressed, then its hell. i've been to hell more than heaven but i'm with the angels right nowwink

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If you break ONE of the commandments you go to hell. That's why you need JESUS.


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i was always told that god forgives everybody..... so why is there even a hell?

heaven and hell are indeed on this earth... and they're actually inside you. if you're happy, then you are in heaven. if you're depressed, then its hell. i've been to hell more than heaven but i'm with the angels right nowwink


Do you know about the other 8 worlds?

10. Hell
9. Hunger
8. Animality
7. Anger
6. Heaven
5. Humanity
4. Learning
3. Realization
2. Bodhisattva
1. Buddhahood

http://www.buddhistinformation.com/10_worlds.htm


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It would make more sense for every sin commited results in you drawing closer to the 9th layer of hell starting with Purgatory..


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i was always told that god forgives everybody..... so why is there even a hell?

heaven and hell are indeed on this earth... and they're actually inside you. if you're happy, then you are in heaven. if you're depressed, then its hell. i've been to hell more than heaven but i'm with the angels right nowwink


Yeah...It's kinda how I view it.....Sort of.

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if you're roman-catholic you can buy your way out with indulgences wink

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I thought they stopped that 600 years ago because Luther ended up reforming the whole thing and causing them to lose Germany, Sweden, etc.


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Not really...It's called the "mass Today"....You pay money to the church and have a priest preform a mass and have your dead relatives prayed out of purgatory....

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thats creepy... if they deverved to be in hell they shouldnt be taken out...


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Not really...It's called the "mass Today"....You pay money to the church and have a priest preform a mass and have your dead relatives prayed out of purgatory....

It is these types of practises and rituals performed by the Roman Catholic Church that has proofed them to be not The Church but just yet another church that has twisted God's word into making money for themselves. No where in the Bible is it written that you can pay your way into heaven or that of a deceased person. Money cannot beven buy forgiveness from God. I still fail to see how people can claim that the Catholic church has changed the Bible and started Christiandom for they are themselves in contradiction of the Bible.

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It is these types of practises and rituals performed by the Roman Catholic Church that has proofed them to be not The Church but just yet another church that has twisted God's word into making money for themselves. No where in the Bible is it written that you can pay your way into heaven or that of a deceased person. Money cannot beven buy forgiveness from God. I still fail to see how people can claim that the Catholic church has changed the Bible and started Christiandom for they are themselves in contradiction of the Bible.


Yep...with the Mass thing...You generally have to have many many Masses for the one person.....My grandmother a Roman Catholic would give for a mass all the time for my deceased grandfather and my cousin....such a scam.

Though I have to say that many Protestant churches also twist scripture to fit their denomination...That's why so many pastors quit...They realized that they are forced to follow doctrine instead of what scripture teaches..

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And who says those in hell can't be redeemed? Hell is just a lower dimension, it relates well to Buddhism that the worse you are as a person, the worse your world is going to be..

This doesn't mean those who sin are doomed forever to torment and punishment. But alot of times they choose to be. You underestimate the power of pride and arrogance. Before honor, comes humility..


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Yep...with the Mass thing...You generally have to have many many Masses for the one person.....My grandmother a Roman Catholic would give for a mass all the time for my deceased grandfather and my cousin....such a scam.

Though I have to say that many Protestant churches also twist scripture to fit their denomination...That's why so many pastors quit...They realized that they are forced to follow doctrine instead of what scripture teaches..

Exactly!!! That is why I have said so many times already that I am not a follower of a church but of the scriptures. Church for me is a place to worship ( which I also do at home) and to have fellowship with other christians. There are many churches and preachers who became rich from twisting scripture even amidst having poor people in their churches. If the pastor fails to follow scripture then the church will fail the people, thats how I see it.

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Exactly!!! That is why I have said so many times already that I am not a follower of a church but of the scriptures. Church for me is a place to worship ( which I also do at home) and to have fellowship with other christians. There are many churches and preachers who became rich from twisting scripture even amidst having poor people in their churches. If the pastor fails to follow scripture then the church will fail the people, thats how I see it.


What denomination are you????...If it's ok to ask....Only cause I want to know where you're coming from.....ok?

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