i very very much enjoyed TROY. i am well into my Mythology and was very taken by TROY.
Braveheart was just a cracker though, being scottish i MUST love this movie! Mel Gibson did a very good job of directing on such a difficult project. Bassically everything i was taught at school about William Wallace except a few things (a big part which was left out was at the battle of sterling (where we defeat the english) was actually named 'The Battle of Sterling Bridge' and i aced an essay paper by writing about the bridge incident)
i feel so passionate about Braveheart. Back in school we visited the 'mud-huts' which scots used to live in and its just.....an un-describable patriotic feelıng.
i am currently on holiday in Turkey and evertime we mention we are from Scotland we get the whole 'braveheart congratulations'.
But even now i would right enough fight and die for William Wallace back in them days -
1) to defend and honor my country
2) because Edward the fırst was a complete w*nker!
Gladiator - Second movie my grandpa sat me down to watch with him and i thoroughly enjoyed this epic too. Was a very good story line but it didnt quite do it for me compared to the other 2 movies. i dislike alot of movies where there are empires and slaves and such.....not a big fan of slavery-sort of disgusts me (even in movies)
Discos - Braveheart has the best movie soundtrack & also gets my vote on this thread.
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"In the year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland, starving and outnumbered, charged the fields at Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsmen. And won their freedom."
well here is some things about the film that go against the mythology.
deep breath.
The movie suggests that Troy was sacked about a month after the Greeks landed; Homer's "Illiad" has the siege lasting over ten years. - Menelaus was not slain by Hector; he outlived him and was one of the soldiers in the Trojan Horse. He was eventually reunited with Helen and they apparently lived a happy life until his death in Sparta many years later. - Agamemnon was not killed by Briseis at Troy; he survived and returned home only to be killed by his wife Clytaemnestra and her lover Aegisthus. - Patroclus was not Achilles cousin, he was probably his lover. - Achilles was killed by a single arrow shot by Paris, way before the Greeks built the horse. - Priam was killed by Neoptolemos, son of Achilles. - Patrokles was deadly wounded by Euphorbos and Hector then cut his throat. - Ajax was not killed by Hector, instead he committed suicide, after slaughtering a flock of sheep, which in a bout of madness he mistook for the Greeks that had refused him the armor of the dead Achilles. - Paris died of a poisoned arrow shot by Philoket. - Astyanax, son of Hector, was thrown to his death from the walls of Troy by the victorious Greeks. - Andromache, wife of Hector, was taken as a slave by Neoptolemos. - Aeneas was a son in law to King Priam and the second in command of the Trojan forces. So Paris asking him his name at the end of the movie is rather strange.
hmmm, i actually never saw braveheart, never saw all of Gladiator, but i did see all of Troy. Troy was a very good movie, i will admit, but from what i did see in gladiator it looked like it would've been better. ill have to see the whole movie then get back to you
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Another chance to rant about Braveheart. Excellent.
Braveheart is historical mince. I can enjoy the film but I always get pissed off cos of the lack of history.
Wallace did not outlive Edward I
He didn't get his hole from the Queen.
Bruce NEVER fought for England.
Bannockburn did not win Scotland independence.
Wallace wasn't a peasant.
I could go on, but I think this site has finally made me sick of ranting about bloody braveheart.
__________________ In football, you use your foot to kick the ball, hence the name.
Americans add throwing, pads, alter the length of the game etc, i.e. change it completely yet still call it football.
Then they call the original soccer, and expect the rest of the world to adopt this bastard name. Pish.
From hence forth American football shall be known as "soccer." by me.
I didn't see Gladiator, but I liked the other two movies. Braveheart was so good. I thought Troy was good too. I think it's cuz I am really into Greek mythology and stuff. And I know a lot of the things in that movie were inaccurate, but for some reason I was captivated. Lol. I liked how they portrayed the death of Achilles and how the myth about him was created. I dont know. I just dont think it was that bad of a movie...
People these are movies for pete's sake, they do not have to be historically accurate unless otherwise stated at the begginning or end of the movie, which of the 3 the only one that does sort of commit to that is Braveheart. Gladiator in no way is suppose to be historically accurate, its just a dam cool fictional movie with a dam cool fictional protagonist. And Troy! How is Troy going to be Historically accurate when for the most part none of it is really true. Its a story written by a man, who cares if somebody else decIdes to make a movie out of it and changes some things up, it never really happenned, if you want to find out what really happenned in any of these movies watch the history channel or read a book about them. IMO all three of these movies were highly entertaining (which is the main purpose of a movie) and for what they were, somehwhat informative.
Troy was a big steaming pile of shit bar two or three scenes...
Brendan Gleeson getting paid to beat the shit out of Orlando Bloom (i'd do it for free) was good, and the Achilles v Hector battle, good choreography... Other than that, the movie is nothing but an excuse for Brad Pitt to take his clothes off... Ridiculous...
How is Troy boring? i could understand lame story, or pointless. But damn near the whole movie was action?
I liked Troy as an action flick. I don't think the story is all that bad either. I like gladiator in an entireley other way. I like it for it's excellent story line and drama. You cannot take one scene out of that move without altering the entire thing. Everything is essential. It's a good movie.
By the way i watch movie's for movies for entertainment. Thats all they are meant to be. They are not documentarys. They are movies.
Bloom was a pansy in the movie. He had two small action sceanes. I would say the rest of the action kept me on my feet enough in order to not let orlando bore me though.
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