for the last time,only schumachers Batman and Robin was a trainwreck.maybe he could tolerate carrey because he was hysterical as the riddler. yeah jones ruined the character of two face but careey didnt.Devito more than anything ruined the penguins character big time with his horrible acting.devito gave the penguin a bad name and was incredibly hard to watch.carrey was fun to watch because he was hilarious unlike jones.after tim burtons crapfest batman movies,a major change like neon bright lights HAD to be made.He is right about one thing here other than the batmobile was shiny,yet that one of the few things that was better in the burton films that schumachers was the batmobile,but he DID hit the nail on the head that michelle phieffer was sexy as hell as catwoman.
And you know what , it probably was . anyone recall the line "holy rusted metal batman, the ground its holey you know not rock". then batmans like "oh.." that scene made me laugh my ass off. Really its so cheesy i just make fun of it everytime.
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the fight scenes in the burton movies were not very good it didnt look like batman was really trying, he'll just move an arm or a leg and it looked really slow and boring ,in bf the fight scenes were fast pace and good camera angels . i know ya people liked the first batmobile but i wasnt that crazy about it it looked slow and it looked like it had a pointy nipple in the front of it but dont get me wrong im not trying to nock it just that the bf batmobile looked more like a pimpmobile that jumpoff had the blue rims with the bat symbol on it, plus it had big ass wings on it ,plus the blue engine.Also about the nipples on the costume they weren't as bad as the ones in B&R and i think they made it up to me when he pulled out the prototype costume no nipples and the mouth peace had slashes on it .One more thing BF did alot better than BR in the box office and dvd sales and for the people that never read a batman comic book made easier for them to get into the movie, it had lots of action ,a creative plot ,and those lines you call cheezy is called comedy in the movie business.
You people got chill i think the batman trilogy is a masterpiece cuz check it ,each one was based on a different comicbook, burtons was based on the very first comic when batman use to kill ,schumakers were also based on the comics in a way there were comics that portrayed batman as a lighter chaerecter which people seem to forget and bb was just the begining of a new trilogy thats why it was a little boring but now that the story has been told the seqel should go straight to the action hopefully.But each one is different so if you dont like this one you can pick this one if you dont like that one you can pick another one plus there is more to come so quit bi*chen and be happy and if someone doesnt like the same one you do so what the hell with them, if you like be proud! HOLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
except when batman killed in the beginning,he only did so when it was absolutely neccessary and there was no other way out.thats why burtons batman movies are a disgrace to his character and its sad that so many people dont care how burtons batman movies butchered to death his character and how he made it more like a james bond flick than a batman movie.also it amazes me how people dont care how burton only cast keaton only because he felt comfortable working with him and did not care about making the best casting choice possible.batman was never a short runt who was half bald.
remins me of the casting choice of burt reynolds as boss hogg.in BOTH cases,you just got to raise your hands in the air and say WTF?
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WAT???????i think the fight scenes in BF were pathetic,the burton 1s were ace because they wer in a dark and scary atmosphere.i especially didnt see how a circus boy with no martial arts training could fight 20 or so armed men,this was to cartoony unlike the scary atmosphere of BR and B89
i can really care less about the dark and scary atmosphere crap im talking about that im talking about the acuall fighting not the atmoshpere and what you said about robin why does every damn thing need to be explained if he can fight he can fight i never had any martial arts training but i can still whup somebodeys a$$.
wait a minute.that was a pretty dark and scary atmosphere in batman forever when robin encountered like over 50 thugs and it looked like he was going to die only batman came and rescued him.how is that possibly pathetic seeing batman wip 6 goons of two faces by demonstrating his martial arts expertise? the burton ones were ace? surely you are trying to be funny? hate to tell you this but batman isnt the wuss burton made him into when he inexcusably got the crap beat out of him by ONE guy,the jokers goon at the end.that part was a disgrace to Batman's character because like batman begins showed so brilliantly,batman can easily handle a dozen or so men at one time,yet in the first film he couldn't even beat one guy.that was a joke.if anything,that was pathetic fight scene,not the ones in batman forever.
now the point you made about robin is actually a good and valid point.you actually have something there.
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Im glad to see that someone else besides me and pimp appreciates it that a batman film was made that included robin in it. batman forever could have been a magical movie if they had just cast ANYONE other than o'donnel.he was way too old to be adopted and is a horrible actor.just like keaton was miscast as batman,o'donnel was miscast as robin.thank god for batman begins,a movie that FINALLY made great casting choices with all the characters,batman,ect and finally erased all those horrible casting choices from the schumacher/burton nightmare franchise.
I would have to agree with Batman Returns side, B89 and BR are the best ones by far and the Burton/Keaton partnership gave us a whole new take on Batman. Without Burton's Batman there would be no Nolan's Batman. However, i did enjoy BB but there was something missing from it which didnt quite make it great. BF i thought was good but they could have given riddler/2 face more character and better stories. Schumacher's films looked as if they were made just for the sake of making batman films. In BF, Carrey and Jones were the ideal actors for the parts but without the story to make it any good schumacher's films didnt have that true batman feeling.
this film just wasnt dark and violent enough for my liking. i thought it was to colourful.it didnt have that scary feel to it that makes me chill when i watch films unlike BR and BB. i did enjoy some elements of this film though like jim carreys humour and i didnt think kilmer woz a bad batman it just had quite a more childish theme to it
your joking right? Ive pointed out countless of times on this thread how batman forever was the only halfway decent batman movie made of the horrible burton/keaton franchise along with batman and robin.you really need to read through those posts.many people seemed to agree it was much better than batman returns as well because it did much better at the box office which is pretty good for a third film because the majority of times,sequels dont do well at the box office by the third film.if forever had been the first film,it would easily have been the biggest money maker.
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and just because you've "pointed out" countless times how halfway decent it was still doesn't make it majority opinion for the MANY Batman Forever dislikers and Burton "apologists" as you call them
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yeah jones ruined the character of two face but careey didnt.Devito more than anything ruined the penguins character big time with his horrible acting.devito gave the penguin a bad name and was incredibly hard to watch.carrey was fun to watch because he was hilarious unlike jones.after tim burtons crapfest batman movies,a major change like neon bright lights HAD to be made.He is right about one thing here other than the batmobile was shiny,yet that one of the few things that was better in the burton films that schumachers was the batmobile,but he DID hit the nail on the head that michelle phieffer was sexy as hell as catwoman. 
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hate to tell you this but batman isnt the wuss burton made him into when he inexcusably got the crap beat out of him by ONE guy,the jokers goon at the end.that part was a disgrace to Batman's character because like batman begins showed so brilliantly,batman can easily handle a dozen or so men at one time,yet in the first film he couldn't even beat one guy.that was a joke.if anything,that was pathetic fight scene,not the ones in batman forever. 
batman forever could have been a magical movie if they had just cast ANYONE other than o'donnel.he was way too old to be adopted and is a horrible actor.just like keaton was miscast as batman,o'donnel was miscast as robin.thank god for batman begins,a movie that FINALLY made great casting choices with all the characters,batman,ect and finally erased all those horrible casting choices from the schumacher/burton nightmare franchise. 
