i can see what you're getting at...but then if you use
"a large number of arfican americans are incarcerated for criminal activities"
you dont get banned from the forum
but if you use
"i think ******* are ****ing criminal bastards who need locking up"
then you would get banned
the media are obviously the biggest users of this coded language but i dont think its about hiding an opinion...the fact is that media outlets DO recieve huge numbers of complaints about using inappropriate terminology in print or in broadcasting...i guess they are just covering their backs
abuse? man you are off your rocker today. you want a hug?
no, i will just point out the complete irrelevence of your statement. i know that such methods are used by the media, and you were barking up one of the right trees....but alas...swing and a miss.
and racial slurs are not bannable. you cant get arrested for calling someone a n**** in america. however, you're employer can be pressured into firing you.
so what would you prefer...that every goes back to the "good ol' days" of calling a spade a spade?
i do get your point about the terms used by people...particularly the one about substituting the word "black" for anything and everything else
i don't know how bad it gets in the US but in the UK they have gone to silly extremes...no longer using the term blackboard but instead "chalkboard"
kids no longer singing the nursery ryhme "baa baa black sheep"
the word christmas being erradicated from government issued Christmas cards...instead "seasons greetings" and "winter festival" being used
as for on KMC...i imagine people use it to prevent being banned as i've said.
but it seems you're laying out a catch 22 situation...people using the term "african american" to hide their racism...perhaps in some contexts but i dont think it can be a blanket statement
the fact is that there aren't many non black people who could use the word "******" without coming across as racist whether they meant to be or not...
why would someone be banned from kmc for being a racist? i have yet to see that happen. *checks kidrocks profile* yup, still here. why? because he consciously avoids typing racial slurs in his many troll posts.
you dont have to use the n- word to type hate speech.
watch:
"all african americans are criminals and should be locked up"
see? thats hate speech lacking any racial slurs. in fact that would kinda be PC hate speech...in a sense.
but dont we digress? the topic is not of words, but of a manner
in appealing to those with like minds while avoiding the scrutiny of
the opposition. consciously disguising the true meaning of what you say,
and leave the baiting conclusion to be taken.
Yes, and no. At least, in my opinion. If a spade is a black man, rather than an african american, then a spade IS a spade. If a spade is a well placed hypocritical comment, yes. Say what you think, the way you think. It would make cleaning house here on teh forums a lot more black and white process for the mods. And, when you get right down to it, that's a big part of this behavior. People don't want to get banned for writing exactly what they think, so they spice it with a measure of political correctness and sell it as a relevant opinion that should be considered on the same level as any other.
Hiding your opinion behind political correctness is the central issue here, not calling a black guy a ****** or a gay man a ******.
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i know what you mean but the fact is that people are entitled to their opinion and the means to express that opinion
as for kidrock...i never know whether or not to take him seriously...the trolling seems to be designed to get a response more than to put across an opinion on something
there are perfectly valid opinions and concerns about issues such as immigration, gay marriage or adoption that people should be allowed to give without allegations of xenophobia or homophobia
thats said...there some people with offensive opinions who do try to disguise it...so i do agree with that...but i'm asking what you think should be done about it...
notice capt_fantastic's post has words censored...that shows a reason why, at least on KMC, people deliberately dont use those words
what if right now i was to type **** **** ****** ***** ******* ****** kyke wop slanty eyed retard bastard shit
But thats the entire reason they do it, to not get recognized... Besides jus tthink of how bad a government would be if they would say what they thought. You would have about half a million political party's, each with a small part in the senate, and the guy with 200 votes or more would be president. It simply doesn't work... Although it would be nice if it did.
Coded speech seems to me to be the same as an insinuation. Both imply something indirectly - and often derogatory - without stating it explicitly.
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Of his bones are coral made;
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But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
__________________ Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Coded speak/insinuation involves knowing how people think, react and communicate on a subtle level. It requires intelligence, gut feeling, and certainly the desire to use this power for evil.
It is sometimes cowardly. It is always an art.
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