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HaSon
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His healing factor would be given one hell of a work out if his body was pulled apart. smile

Not really.


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He healed completely form just a pile of goo before in moments. Ripping him apart won't be any thing he can't handle.


Meh, I suppose. However, he could still screw with J'onn's electrical impulse's in his brain.


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He healed completely form just a pile of goo before in moments. Ripping him apart won't be any thing he can't handle.


Not if Mags makes all his blood rush out of his brains through his nose until he passes out. Or better force throw him into the sun using his high iron blood as the anchor.

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And during all this MM isn't going to be fighting back.

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J'onn SPEEDBLITZ's Magento, game over.

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J'onn SPEEDBLITZ's Magento, game over.


J'onn doesn't speedblitz.


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mm i like magnus but mm would beat him in a long hard fight.

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J'onn doesn't speedblitz.



It's within his abilities to take Magneto out before Magento could harm him, so he CAN do it, he wins.

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It's within his abilities to take Magneto out before Magento could harm him, so he CAN do it, he wins.


He doesn't speedblitz.


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He doesn't speedblitz.



He is capable of it therefore in the forum he could use that power against Magneto for the win.

Don't like it? To bad he can do it, it's within his powerset.

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He is capable of it therefore in the forum he could use that power against Magneto for the win.

Don't like it? To bad he can do it, it's within his powerset.


Okay.... he CAN'T. That better? He's no Superman or Flash.

He doesn't have the ability to take out Magneto before Magneto simply summons a shield. From there, it's just a matter of:

http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...rpolarissb4.jpg

Magneto ftw.


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Lol, J'onn does have superspeed so your point is moot about what Magneto could do becuase he would be incapacitated.

If you take away speed Magneto has a chance.

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Lol, J'onn does have superspeed so your point is moot about what Magneto could do becuase he would be incapacitated.

If you take away speed Magneto has a chance.


Right, and speed doesn't mean J'onn wins this. His reflexes are not up to par with Superman and Flash. YOUR point is moot.

Magneto caught a speedblitzing Northstar out of the sky with little trouble. He's gone mach 100 in Earth's atmosphere. He's taken punches from Hercules and Namor w/o too much trouble.

All he has to do here is put up a shield. Nothing too difficult. From there, he pulls J'onn's blood out.


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Right, and speed doesn't mean J'onn wins this. His reflexes are not up to par with Superman and Flash. YOUR point is moot.


I am not even sure what your point is by trying to compare J'onn speed to flash and superman, this is Magneto! Magneto doesn't have superhuman reaction speed so it doesn't matter. Once again DC speed for the win over Marvel.

By the way Northstar has NOTHING on MM, combine speed plus MM's strength or phase attack and Magneto is DEAD if he wants it.

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All he has to do here is put up a shield. Nothing too difficult. From there, he pulls J'onn's blood out.


Magneto's reactions aren't going to cut the mustard against J'onn, game over.

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I am not even sure what your point is by trying to compare J'onn speed to flash and superman, this is Magneto! Magneto doesn't have superhuman reaction speed so it doesn't matter. Once again DC speed for the win over Marvel.


Actually, he does. And all he has to do is put a shield up. J'onn isn't going to 'speedblitz' him because quite literally he CAN'T. His battle/combat speeds have never been put into the speedblitzing category. The only time I've ever seen him come close to a speedblitz, he was half way around the world from his target, and had to pick up a shit load of momentum before he could reach them. Hell, they even had their backs turned. I don't think Magneto's going to let J'onn do all that. Even if he did, Magneto would be waiting for him with his shield up. ALL Magneto has to do is a simple gesture. J'onn isn't killing him before Magneto flicks his wrist. That's just not going to happen.

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By the way Northstar has NOTHING on MM, combine speed plus MM's strength or phase attack and Magneto is DEAD if he wants it.


You're right.... Northstar is MUCH MUCH faster than J'onn is. 99% the speed of light anyone? In Earth's atmosphere, J'onn AT BEST goes a couple times mach speed. And that's his travel speed.... I'm not even talking about his combat speed. So, you essentially have NO point.

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Magneto's reactions aren't going to cut the mustard against J'onn, game over.


How do you cut mustard? confused

stick out tongue

Anyway, you're putting way too much time/effort/faith in a speedblitz when the person you're talking about can't even do so in a combat situation which is what we're dealing with.

If you were talking about Superman, then I'd agree with you.

As it is, all Magneto has to do is put his shield up, and pull his blood out.


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I am not even sure what your point is by trying to compare J'onn speed to flash and superman, this is Magneto! Magneto doesn't have superhuman reaction speed so it doesn't matter. Once again DC speed for the win over Marvel.

By the way Northstar has NOTHING on MM, combine speed plus MM's strength or phase attack and Magneto is DEAD if he wants it.



Magneto's reactions aren't going to cut the mustard against J'onn, game over.
batdude is right it will not be easy cuz magneto is a beast very underrated on here but i do see mm winning but it won't be easy.

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well dam now i think about it mm can't use tp on mags dam oh well i don't see mm wining. magneto 8/10.

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batdude is right it will not be easy cuz magneto is a beast very underrated on here but i do see mm winning but it won't be easy.



Magneto is hardly underrated

When you can show me Magneto fighting a speedster with zero prep and surviving when they are as strong as MM we can talk since you cannot then oh well. Not to mention all MM needs to do is heat vision Magneto, he doesn't even need to move. This fight is to funny, MM has to many ways to overcome Magneto's HUMAN limitationssmile

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Magneto is hardly underrated

When you can show me Magneto fighting a speedster with zero prep and surviving when they are as strong as MM we can talk since you cannot then oh well. Not to mention all MM needs to do is heat vision Magneto, he doesn't even need to move. This fight is to funny, MM has to many ways to overcome Magneto's HUMAN limitationssmile


Magneto is hardly human. He's taken shots from Hercules, Namor, and Colossus w/o any damage at all. confused He's caught a speedblitzing Northstar.

The funny thing is.... MM can't even speedblitz. So there goes one of his ways to win.

I agree w/ the heat vision part. That's certainly a viable tactic. However, w/ shields up...

BOOM!!!

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Blood pull. smile


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In JLA: Earth 2, J'onn was going at Mach 12.

In Rock of Ages, J'onn was matching Superman Blue at Mach 20.

So he could definitely speedblitz.

Also J'onn's Martian physiology enables him to change his organic systems to anything he desires. He can even shrink to microspopic size and alter his physiology to breath water. I wouldn't put it past him alter his physiology to the point where the "blood pull" would be nulliefied. He has complete psychic control over his physiology. I also wouldn't say that pulling the blood out his system would entirely work. He can just make more blood similar to the way he remakes a limb or two.

Also intangibility could nullify Mag's iron blood pull technique...


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