electricity isn't the same as lasers, but heat is the same as heat. there's no evidence in either of batdude's scans that magneto altered his body in any way. there's no visible shields or anything, at least. electricity and magnetism are "cousins", but lasers fall under "electromagnetism"...you know, the force magneto controls. and martian vision isn't even a laser, is it? i thought it was unknown.
Magneto does have forwarning of mm.
He knows he is about to fight him (forum rules)
That is enough
He doesn't wait for mm to shoot him and then summon a shield as a reflex. He just summons one soon as the battle begins. Simple
Also as forum rules you must show proof that he can speedblitz
Traveling speed don't count as battle speed since it can take any unknown about of time to reach a certain speed. For all we know mm has to take 20 sec to reach mach 1. But that doesn't mean he can't reach achieve mach 20 (just not fast enough). No one can instantly obtain a certain speed. It takes time to build up to any speed.
Thus no mm speedblitzing feats then no argument
None of your scans have shown a Magneto without his powers up. What you have shown is that Magneto with his powers can handle the heat, what you haven't shown is Magneto with ZERO powers activated handling the heat.
Also none of the lightening scans mentioned one thing about heat, the heat factor is simply batdude's guess who also thought lightening got to be BILLIONS of degrees f.
By the way wasn't that Emporer Joker in those scans?
Last edited by Soleran on Oct 21st, 2006 at 10:17 PM
He didn't have any shields up if you cared to read the scan. He was trying to send them to outer space, but they were programmed to explode when he used his powers. He wasn't expecting that.
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Without getting into some HUGE scientific debate the way heat is generated is what I discussed. You on the other hand consistantly draw away specifically from what I talk about when I say Martian Vision can create 10,000 f in a time period that will melt Magneto.
Not Magneto's tollerance to electricity, not magneto focusing and using his powers to disperse some source of energy.
It is established that IF Magneto has prep he will win without it he won't. Hell even in your last scans of Magneto he saw the missiles coming and had time to prepare.
So once again stop derailing the Martian Vision, it's going to melt his head before Magneto can do anyting.
He used his powers to try and push them into outer space. That's all he was trying to do. IF YOU HAD READ THE SCANS... you would have seen that he was NOT expecting at all that the nukes were set to detonate at the very use of his powers. Therefore, he was quite literally NOT PREPARED when they exploded right in front of his face. He didn't have his shields up. That's about as unprepared as it gets.
J'onn gets his blood pulled. Magneto wins.
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will you get off the speedblitzing thing (whether vision or physical)
Magneto does have forwarning of mm in this fight.
He knows he is about to fight him (forum rules)
That is enough
He doesn't wait for mm to shoot him and then summon a shield as a reflex. He just summons one soon as the battle begins. Simple
Also as forum rules you must show proof that he can speedblitz
Traveling speed don't count as battle speed since it can take any unknown about of time to reach a certain speed. For all we know mm has to take 20 sec to reach mach 1. But that doesn't mean he can't reach achieve mach 20 (just not fast enough). No one can instantly obtain a certain speed. It takes time to build up to any speed.
Thus no mm speedblitzing feats then no argument
What are you talking about? He was using his powers to send them into space. NOTHING MORE. He was quite litterally unprepared at what happened then. HE WAS NOT PREPPING FOR THEM TO BLOW UP IN HIS FACE!!!
To say he did is just ignorant.
And J'onn's reflexe's aren't that much faster than Magneto's. I've told you, J'onn caught Northstar speedblitzing in mid air. He can easily put up his shield in time. J'onn doesn't have the ability to end this fight quickly.
Blood yoink. J'onn loses. Everybody seems to get this but you.
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I know Magneto is no normal human but he still doesn't outspeed MM at all. MM is faster than Magneto. and the blood thing won't really work on MM when he is intangible he won't really have any blood to pull out as he's like in another dimension or his atoms have no blood. All MM has to do is speed at Mags whilst invisible and turn intangible and screw with his neural functions like he did to the white martians before.
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