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Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. You're comapring rea life physics to Sephiroth power from a fantasy game. Do i even need to start with why thats appaulling logic?

2. Has Jadeh been accounced in an interveiw to be the completel strongest & best?

3. We were told by the creatos, get it through that dense skull. If the creator said it, IT IS FACT.

4. Love that, you have not proved and superiorities from Jedah. You THINK you have but you are the only one who thinks that.

5. Umm, yes it did, how bout you watch the video. That's not instant though is it? They didn't make an image of the beam traveling, they just made it appear. So how are you seeeing something that is not there?

6. Because it doesn't possess the power of Sephiroths body, who has cosumed a heavy amount of negative lifestream....
1. Um, how is that real life physics? His tail wasn't literally tearing off, he was just in pain all around, and proclaimed his tail felt like it was going to tear.

2. No, logic proves he is. He beat a Pyron empowered Demitri.

3. No, we were told by the creators he is the STRONGEST, not the FASTEST. You assume they meant in every way.

4. List of things I proved Jedah has over Sephiroth:
1. Healing.
2. Damage soak.
3. Variety of powers.
4. Shapeshifting.
5. Dimensional BFR.

That is all of the obvious tho.

5. It looked like it was traveling to me. Also, it is still not bullet speed.

6. I thot we were arguing about FFVII Seph? Of course AC Seph is a bit stronger physically(not known how much tho).


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Originally posted by EvilAngel
Pull his cells apart i think would do the trick
That would be handy, if only Seph could actually do it.


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That would be handy, if only Seph could actually do it.
Even if he could, still wouldn't kill'em though...

If he could actually do that, why didn't he just do it to Cloud when he was kicken his ass...twice?

Seph is still cool, but the wankin is outta hand, 4 reel.


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V2D I'm no longer debating with you. You ignore the facts presented to you, thus are hugely bias.

I will not explain things for a third time. There are two things i cannot stand

1) Being interrupted, but being on a forum thankfully means this is impossible (Thus i also HATE to repeat myself, something i do alot more than i should have to)
2) Being ignored. (Like what i feel you do when you deny facts i have spent time and energy digging up from other sources)

Those two things infuriate me. You have crossed the line, If you cannot deal with the factS presented to you, then don't make the ****ing thread in the first place if you cannot deal with the facts!!

Just grow the **** up. BT accepted the facts despite not completely understand all of it at once.

You V2D are just being disrespectful, and won't forgive you lightly

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Originally posted by King Hellstorm
Even if he could, still wouldn't kill'em though...

If he could actually do that, why didn't he just do it to Cloud when he was kicken his ass...twice?

Seph is still cool, but the wankin is outta hand, 4 reel.


How would he regenerate from nothing?

Because he has a nasty habit of toying with Cloud.

Not really, people say that because they don't like what they hear. All the thing i say i have reasonable evidence to support my claims. I wouldn't dare debate on no proof.

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Originally posted by EvilAngel
V2D I'm no longer debating with you. You ignore the facts presented to you, thus are hugely bias.

I will not explain things for a third time. There are two things i cannot stand

1) Being interrupted, but being on a forum thankfully means this is impossible (Thus i also HATE to repeat myself, something i do alot more than i should have to)
2) Being ignored. (Like what i feel you do when you deny facts i have spent time and energy digging up from other sources)

Those two things infuriate me. You have crossed the line, If you cannot deal with the factS presented to you, then don't make the ****ing thread in the first place if you cannot deal with the facts!!

Just grow the **** up. BT accepted the facts despite not completely understand all of it at once.

You V2D are just being disrespectful, and won't forgive you lightly
I need to grow the fvck up, yet you are the one throwing the hissy fit. Your logic is just amazing. Your entire argument is based on bullshit assumptions, one, you assume that Seph can split cells apart with TK, which is speculative BULLSHIT. I'm hugely bias? I can't STAND Jedah, and I like Seph, if anyone is bias, it would be YOU.

You have not proven Seph is stronger in every way, you assume he is based on...nothing.

Hate repeating yourself? Sorry if I can't accept the words of a speculative biased person, biut I just can't.

Being ignored? I have not denied any "FACTS", only your speculative bullshit, like "Seph can break cells with TK", that is such crap it isn't even funny.

I made the thread as a spite thread, I can't lie, and that is because this IS a stomp in Jedah's favor.

No, it is you who should grow the fvck up. BT accepted...what now? He hasn't even really participated in this debate.

Bite me.


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he meant i accepted things in the Sephiroth VS Kain thread, although eventually me and Angel came to a compramise


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Originally posted by Burning thought
he meant i accepted things in the Sephiroth VS Kain thread, although eventually me and Angel came to a compramise


Being in Nosgoth Kain > Sephiroth

Normally Kain = Sephiroth.

Right?

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Originally posted by EvilAngel
Being in Nosgoth Kain > Sephiroth

Normally Kain = Sephiroth.

Right?


yeh, i think its sensible to bleive the only to being to survive at in in Nsogoth isl likely those who are beyond time lile LT


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Originally posted by EvilAngel
How would he regenerate from nothing?
Don't really know, but he does it, his soul probably can create it's own body. Even when Jedah's body was destroyed Anita had a hard time wit his soul cuz it was still tryin to fight her.

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Because he has a nasty habit of toying with Cloud.
Yeah right...t's a load of crap.

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Not really, people say that because they don't like what they hear. All the thing i say i have reasonable evidence to support my claims. I wouldn't dare debate on no proof.
Nothin you've shown or said has what it takes to beat Jedah. Seph has no way to even make Jedah say "ouch". In every fight Seph has been in, he uses his sword, Seph will fight Jedah with his sword...and that wont work.

So I ask again what is Seph gonna do to hurt Jedah...or even cause the slightest amount of pain?

Jedah can completely erase the guy in one move. Jedah could just absorb Seph's power...reducin him to crap or use the majigen to destroy the FF7 dimension....this is a stomp.


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Don't really know, but he does it, his soul probably can create it's own body. Even when Jedah's body was destroyed Anita had a hard time wit his soul cuz it was still tryin to fight her.

Yeah right...t's a load of crap.

Nothin you've shown or said has what it takes to beat Jedah. Seph has no way to even make Jedah say "ouch". In every fight Seph has been in, he uses his sword, Seph will fight Jedah with his sword...and that wont work.

So I ask again what is Seph gonna do to hurt Jedah...or even cause the slightest amount of pain?

Jedah can completely erase the guy in one move. Jedah could just absorb Seph's power...reducin him to crap or use the majigen to destroy the FF7 dimension....this is a stomp.


You don't know? so you have no base for that arguement, thus you fail to counter me.

Not aload of crap, absolutely obvious, aswell as we've been told by the creators

My evidence is sufficent.

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You don't know? so you have no base for that arguement, thus you fail to counter me.
The fact that it is never stated how he does it does not change the fact that he does it So the fact that Seph can't hurt'em still stands

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Not aload of crap, absolutely obvious, aswell as we've been told by the creators
Not twice in a row, though. Every tim Cloud steps to Seph, he cuts his ass up...I rest my case.
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My evidence is sufficent.
not sufficent enough for Seph to have a camp fire's chance in a blizzard at beatin Jedah. That has been proven...royally.


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the only difficuly and piece that should be mentioned on Jedah is BFR, and thats that, ime not sure anyone can escape this, especially fi they cannot move through dimensions themselves or have protections or abilities they can do before Jedah does anything, if it works the same way as his soul powers, he has to raise his hand to call the souls/BFR which means if a being can move fast enough to do something to stop him raising his hand ,they may have a chance


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The fact that it is never stated how he does it does not change the fact that he does it So the fact that Seph can't hurt'em still stands

Not twice in a row, though. Every tim Cloud steps to Seph, he cuts his ass up...I rest my case.

not sufficent enough for Seph to have a camp fire's chance in a blizzard at beatin Jedah. That has been proven...royally.


If it has never been stated, and it has never happened to him before, you cannot claim he will survive it. Such is common sense



Lets reveiw Previous Sephiroth defeats:

First time, Sephiroth VS Cloud and 7 others, all with the most powerful materia in the world and insane limit breaks. While holding back a force so strong that could destroy the planet in moments, with his will. He sill had the power to nearly tear apart Cloud & Co.

Second time, Sephiroth's puppet cusumes some Jenova cells and is beating Cloud around the whole time. Stabs Cloud in the shoulder instead of a killing blow. Not to mention how few cells are true Sephiroth Cells. The True body is fully powerful AND have cosumed much Negative lifestream.

You completely fail on this point.



You lack knowledge on Sephiroth and claim Jadeh as the winner. My points are valid if you take the time to read them.



So for the power to drag them away through to hell. The hands are very slow compared to Sephiroth. Thus i highly doubt they would get him, even if Jadeh managed to use it

According to the evidence i see, Jadeh Loses

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According to your "evidence", Seph can tear apart cells with TK, which is unfounded bullshit.

Oh and BT, you actually think Seph=Kain, but Kain>Pyron, when Pyron>>>>>>>>>FFVII universe? Wtf...


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Originally posted by Violent2Dope
According to your "evidence", Seph can tear apart cells with TK, which is unfounded bullshit.

Oh and BT, you actually think Seph=Kain, but Kain>Pyron, when Pyron>>>>>>>>>FFVII universe? Wtf...



i never said that, i simply accepted Angels concede, because we could not work out who is the stronger, also in that thread Kain has had half his powers taken away. full powered kain>>Pyron and Sephiroth together however thats not the best logic because in FFVII Pyron at full power being enormous would be a massive advantage for him since i doubt any of those in FFVII can do anything at all


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i never said that, i simply accepted Angels concede, because we could not work out who is the stronger, also in that thread Kain has had half his powers taken away. full powered kain>>Pyron and Sephiroth together however thats not the best logic because in FFVII Pyron at full power being enormous would be a massive advantage for him since i doubt any of those in FFVII can do anything at all
I still disagree, Pyron>Kain, and he>>>>>>>>>>(infinate)>>>>>>>>FFVII universe, hell he could maybe solo it in his mortal form.


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Not twice in a row, though. Every tim Cloud steps to Seph, he cuts his ass up...I rest my case.


That have nothing to do with toying around, get your facts straight!

First time: In Nibelheim. He lost because Cloud attacked him from behind, impaling him with the Buster Sword(and Seph was so "weak" after that, that Cloud used his hidden power and could toss him in the Mako).

Second time: In the core of the planet. He lost because he has to hold back the most powerful spell in the planet, while fighting against 8 people using Limit Breaks and the most powerful Materias in the world. He was in a BIG disadvantage during all the fight.

Third time: In the Lifestream. He lost because Cloud found an opening in his defense. Because of the destruction of Sephiroth's physical body(Safer), the fact he was still holding back Holy, and that Cloud became stronger during FFVII, we can say that the fight in the Lifestream is the only moment where Cloud and Sephiroth are close in power. Cloud found an opening in his defense and attacked, winning the battle. Simple as that.

Fourth time: In AC. He lost because he decided to make Cloud suffer instead of just killing him. That's the ONLY moment where he lost because he underestimated Cloud.

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Darkstalkers is simply on a whole nother level than FF7

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also just to post this

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and as soul-sucking will have no effect on KOS-MOS whatsoever seeing as she's an android


T-elos: [KOS-MOS] is the partner of the Messiah. My body is Mary’s body. Inside KOS-MOS sleeps Mary’s will.

seems to me that KOS-MOS has a soul Mary's soul

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Kain is at the bottom of these charts, I am good friends with the biggest LoK fanboy ever, and even he agrees that Sephiroth would beat the hell out of Kain.


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