They both knew about the gems being in different areas since the first page, so I am only already restating whats been covered already. I am not delivering new information for them to use.
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Last edited by Evangel94 on Apr 15th, 2008 at 02:58 AM
There's really no conceivable way for Cain to react in the slightest way before Pete reaches him and takes away the gems and helmet leaving him totally vulnerable to BrainFry or T-vo.
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A juvenal prank.
juggernaut doesn't know who he is facing, that is a perfect reason to activate his force field. the gem will back it as it backed his invulnerability even before the fight started.
and again, your tactics are deflected/slowed to a crawl.
I see what your saying, and I agree. However, they already knew that little fact about the Infinity Gems, and restating what's been said already doesn't change anything. Plus, It related to my question in the sense of how is Superman going to take the gems if they aren't in the standard visible areas. Symmetric Chaos responded by posting scans of Karnak's ability to sense items, so I got my answer.
If I deliver new information that isn't common knowledge, then feel free to police me anytime.
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Last edited by Evangel94 on Apr 15th, 2008 at 03:18 AM
You have no prep and thus no chance to activate the field. Even if you did, Flash with Superman's mass will be ridiculously more difficult to stop than Thor's hammer (which the field barely managed to stop). Besides people slower and weaker than Pete have taken Juggy's hat off.
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He did it to that giant.
He did it to a computer system.
He did it to Alchemist.
He did sped up his own thoughts until it overloaded Thinker (the same could be done to anyone else overloading them from the inside)
He did mentioned he could do it to his own brain in order to kill bacteria.
Prometheus noted that Flash's brain operates at a different frequency than normal people's (proving he can alter the speed of electron in his own brain)
Besides I'm not arguing what would happen in a comic. I'm talking about personality. Karnak presses ever advantage he uses his speed, his strength and his accuracy to their best every time he appears. Pete will have that same personality applied to all of the powers at his disposal.
On the other hand Cain simply doesn't use magic unless it makes him hard to stop.
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not when the field is up, and kmc/tournament rules make him activate it.
he won't let pride stop him from getting his fondest wish, nor will he let
anyone else take it from him.
and you can't harm the juggernaut no matter what you try, why say it?
instead of superman, you should have drafted a strong psychic or powerful magician cause superman's attacks are insufficient.
The debate period is over, so feel free to vote. This is a 24 hour match, and If there aren't any votes when the 24 hour deadline is up, then I may decide myself who should win based on what I've read so far from both participants. Or if there aren't a significant amount of votes, then I may either extend the voting time, or cast my own vote.
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Last edited by Evangel94 on Apr 15th, 2008 at 08:34 PM
Symmetric Chaos, allow me to pose another question for you.
I understand your argument about trying to defeat the Juggernaut in the opening seconds of the battle, but just to cover all the aspects of the battle here; if Juggernaut manages to get his forcefield up at the beginning of the battle, then what is your plan for defeating the Juggernaut and the two infinity gems he is using? Just curious.
I'd like to remind you victory can only be gained by:
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Last edited by Evangel94 on Apr 15th, 2008 at 08:30 PM
it's almost a tie in my opinion...depending on whether Juggy gets his Forcefield up or not
there's literally not a damn thing psycho gundam's character can do to a character he will not even comprehend...and juggy's intellect( or lack thereof) will not allow him to properly take advantage of the space gem
on the other hand, Pete can't hurt juggy...and only option imo is to steal the gems for a victory
man, I give a very slight advantage to Pete
I will withhold my vote for the time being
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Last edited by Starscream M on Apr 15th, 2008 at 08:39 PM
he can't steal them because the (mystical) energy that imbues juggernaut with his powers is always bombarding him, just like superman's. and just like superman's, juggernaut's shield doesn't take time to come firth since it is comes from within and as on panel, the juggernaut's is not a bubble its rather a energy that emanates from his body.
plus the power gem makes him even more invulnerable, even if he didn't have the power of cyttorak coursing through him, he would still be invulnerable.
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