And I wish I never bumped this thread now. This thread reminds of a time when no one had a scanner, and people just made shit up. Like going back and re reading threads from 2003. Ugh
Strange at his best is universal level. That means he's abstract level.
He went toe to toe with the IG and lasted a decent amount of time.
You can't judge characters based off their low feats. Even PC Superman has low feats. The best we have Odin doing is HELPING to destroy a galaxy. This is a rare feat by Odin. Yet many are using it as his base. Well in that case we must Dr. Strange at his highest. That means abstract level. Classic Strange at his best >>>>Odin easily.
No trust me you are dead wrong. Strange fought Set twice and twice he FAILED. First time was in Marvel Team-Up Annual 5, he admitted he couldn't do jack vs him. The only way Set was beaten was by Strange, Scarlet Witch and Spiderman combining their wills and using the power of the Cosmic Cube to destroy the Serpent Crown and prevent Set from coming to Earth.
The second time they fought was during the Atlantis Attacks story arc. Thor, Strange, Quasar and Thing were getting owned so bad Thor ran for his life and tried to get Gaea then later on Atum to help.
When he fought a SHACKLED Zom, Strange had the power of the Ancient One too. It was Strange with the Ancient Ones power vs a shackled Zom. The Living Tribunal shows up and saves Strange's ass.
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Am I wrong? I clearly remember Thanos and Surfer throwing down and Strange or Warlock commenting they didn't have the power to break them up and Strange got Drax/Firelord and some others to break up the fight.
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ok, let's go by what by characters say. Eternity says Strange is the most powerful humanoid in existance. Thanos is humanoid, so Strange>thanos The Stranger says Strange is as powerful as an abstract so that must mean Strange>everyone not an abstract, right?
You don't know what you're talking about. He fought set when he lost all his powers and books. Didn't even have the vishanti. Strange was the only reason Set was unable to enter this dimension. Strange banished him centuries before and Set was unable to break his spell. When Strange was stripped of his power, the spell broke. Current strange is more powerful than that strange. getit?
Wrong. The first time they fought Strange had all his artifacts (not that it helped because he needed them AND the cosmic cube). This was in Marvel Team-Up Annual 5 (1982). Strange lost his artifacts rather than have them fall to Urthona in Dr. Strange 81 (1987). Strange was powerless vs Set.
The second time he encountered Set was in Thor Annual 14 (1989), I don't remember if this took place before Strange got his artifacts back. I'll have to look this up.
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In everyone of those books Strange wasn't at full power. He was either not yet Sorcerer Supreme, stripped by the AO or abandoned by the vishanti or lost artifacts. full power Strange beats Set. 30 seconds of prep and Strange beats Odin.
zopzop is talking about the serpent crown which is what it was noted to be in the storyline. All the serpent crown's in the multiverse were present in that storyline so that Set could manifest in the physical world.
Strange made a comment that his magics couldn't effect the metal shell(because his physical body had a serpent crown on) of the crowns surrounding set not set's actual body which you should understand since it was Strange who exorcised his essence at the end of the same story.
The only thing they used a cosmic cube to do in that storyline was destroy all the serpent crown's they still needed to get rid of Set's essence which was still in the physical realm.
So yeah Set is shit and Strange could have stomped him if not for the PIS of his physical body already being under Set's influence.
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Also consider the fight between strange and inbetweener. That was rape on a stick with nails driven through it covered in rust and aids. That Strange would beat Odin with an ugly stick just for lulz.
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