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LLLLLink
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Lol, this thread...

Trueforce wins @ page 1, and yet here we are...


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New argument: Ultimecia destroys the planet their standing on and team 1's head proceeds to explode in the vacuum (damn who ever it was who decided to scrap spell-check ) of space.

Discuss.


And your arguments about the Triforce still don't satisfy me that it would do diddly squat to stop TC.


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And your arguments about the Triforce still don't satisfy me that it would do diddly squat to stop TC.


It doesn't have to. erm What part of "wish it and it becomes so" is hard to understand?

Whether you believe it or not, the Triforce is omnipotent and omniscient and has displayed ability of such.


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K, 1. That didn't work on the FF8 party, Neph. 2. Ganon and Link could just make new planets, or create bubbles of air aroudn themselves or decide they do not need an atmosphere or planet to survive, and it would be so.


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Ganon turns her into a fish. no expression /thread.


Ultimecia turns him into a frog no expression

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Ultimecia turns him into a frog no expression


Triforce protects against unwanted transformations.


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Ultimecia's never turned someone into a frog to my knowledge. >=|

Basicly: The Triforce is the bigger stronger reality warper in this thread. Ultimecia failed to compress the FF8 party, and because she could not compress them, they defeated her. She's not *that* powerful outside of this ability.

The triforce would be far, far too powerful for her to combat it.


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It doesn't have to. erm What part of "wish it and it becomes so" is hard to understand?


The No Limits Fallacy. Also, whether they'd be able to wish before snuffing it. Which they won't.

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Whether you believe it or not, the Triforce is omnipotent and omniscient and has displayed ability of such.


According to other people, you're completely off your rocker on this point. If the Triforce is that great, how come its a piddly inanimate object that gets stolen every 5 seconds and not God?

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K, 1. That didn't work on the FF8 party, Neph.


For a reason, reasons that won't help Link and Ganon in the slightest.

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2. Ganon and Link could just make new planets, or create bubbles of air aroudn themselves or decide they do not need an atmosphere or planet to survive, and it would be so.


Kthx.


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Uhg, we're going in a circle here.

-The triforce is more powerful than she is.
-The triforce can be seen protecting it's wielder even in it's seperate pieces.
-The triforce gives it's wielder the power to warp reality however they see fit on a highscale.
-It contains the power of the goddess who created time, which alone puts it above Ultimecia's power.

Now: Either Link or Ganon uses their reality warping power to win. =|


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Ultimecia's never turned someone into a frog to my knowledge. >=|

Basicly: The Triforce is the bigger stronger reality warper in this thread. Ultimecia failed to compress the FF8 party, and because she could not compress them, they defeated her. She's not *that* powerful outside of this ability.

The triforce would be far, far too powerful for her to combat it.


Forgot FF8 didn't have that frog spell stick out tongue

Then Ultimecia compliments Ganondorf on his shoes

Then again she knows silence that ends spell casting.

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The No Limits Fallacy. Also, whether they'd be able to wish before snuffing it. Which they won't.


Wrong. It has limits, and that is the will of the user. Your argument is invalid.


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Forgot FF8 didn't have that frog spell stick out tongue

Then Ultimecia compliments Ganondorf on his shoes

Then again she knows silence that ends spell casting.

stick out tongue

The triforce doesn't require a spell to do it's job. cool Though it can amp Ganon's already blatantly awesome spellcasting ability.

All in all, I see no way for Ultimecia to counter a reality warper.


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Ending reality and everyone in the fight.

You know... I noticed, I do not really see the point in this its all guessing

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I said that on page 3, I think it is, and no one agreed, so I just started debating this the old fashioned way.


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-The triforce can be seen protecting it's wielder even in it's seperate pieces.


And only in those pieces, right? Becuase so far you've been saying it would protect them without proving it.

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-The triforce gives it's wielder the power to warp reality however they see fit on a highscale.


Not high enough.

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-It contains the power of the goddess who created time, which alone puts it above Ultimecia's power.


No, its like someone who created a brick from scratch versus someone who crushes every single brick that has ever existed or will exist as well as everything else ever.

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Wrong. It has limits, and that is the will of the user. Your argument is invalid.


Which is another NLF on the thing itself. Unless you can actually prove its omnipotent instead of bruskly stating it over and over.


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With that said I'm going back to playing Battlefield while the servers are up for who knows how long

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No, its like someone who created a brick from scratch versus someone who crushes every single brick that has ever existed or will exist as well as everything else ever.


Lol, no.

Time > bricks erm But nice try.


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Nephthys
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Its called a similie. erm

Or is it a metaphor?

Actually, it might be an analogy.......


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And only in those pieces, right? Becuase so far you've been saying it would protect them without proving it.
Are you trying to say that for some reason a fragment of the triforce would protect someone, and the whoel thing would not?
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Not high enough.

Yes, high enough.

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No, its like someone who created a brick from scratch versus someone who crushes every single brick that has ever existed or will exist as well as everything else ever.
Terrible analogy is terrible.


what exactly is your argument? You haven't made one. You say she's powerful enough to win, but don't say how or why. Her most powerful attack is useless, and what she has left over cannot overcome the FF8 party.

The triforce is too powerful for her to fight against. There's an almost limitless list of things Link or Ganon can do to win.


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Whoa, simmer down, Shin laughing. RAWR!


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