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Originally posted by quanchi112
He said Mangog. I can say Pak HOTM Hulk hasn't been defeated in combat either that doesn't make someone forget 99 percent of their other showings.


The thread however is calling for Silver Age Mangog, and you brought up a later version of the character. I don't know how well Tyrant would do against a G-Blast to the insides of himself, nor do you. Again this thread calls for the Silver Age version.


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The thread however is calling for Silver Age Mangog, and you brought up a later version of the character. I don't know how well Tyrant would do against a G-Blast to the insides of himself, nor do you. Again this thread calls for the Silver Age version.
He referred to Mangog like I said if we went both certain arcs the same could be said for many characters so it isn't impressive. Pay attention.


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Lol. Two different characters. Current Mangog and Classic Mangog is different power level wise.


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Originally posted by Horrificus
Now, do I really need to start posting Thor's beatings, or the number of times it is stated that Odin cannot defeat Mangog?

There are 2 more story arcs involving Mangog messing up Asgard, where Odin is actually involved.

But, I warn you, all that ever works against Mangog, all Odin is ever able to do, is mess with the spell. And, on one of those occasions, Odin dies doing it, AFTER he is amp'd by outside power Thor had to bring to him.

If you don't like it, I'm sorry. Go back in time and kill the writers.


YOU STATED he beat all of Asgard INCLUDING thor and Odin with ease... yet JUST AS I THOUGHT.. THIS NEVER HAPPENED. I remember the arc in question very well... I've read it.. Thought this is what you were referring to and knew he never defeated Odin. In fact, as soon as Odin awoke... Mangog was defeated with ease. Yet, for some reason, you're trying to act like you were correct in your statements. When in fact, you were not.

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^Actually Kurupt, in Thor 198 Odin almost died trying to defeat Mangog. You are thinking of Mangogs first arc.


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I don't remember it going that way... However, it still doesn't back up Horrificus claim.. that Mangog defeated Odin and Thor and all the asgardians with ease and without a scratch.

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Originally posted by carver9
Lol. Two different characters. Current Mangog and Classic Mangog is different power level wise.
No, it's the same character under different writers. When discussing a particular arc of any character you can claim he's never been defeated. It isn't saying much.


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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
YOU STATED he beat all of Asgard INCLUDING thor and Odin with ease... yet JUST AS I THOUGHT.. THIS NEVER HAPPENED. I remember the arc in question very well... I've read it.. Thought this is what you were referring to and knew he never defeated Odin. In fact, as soon as Odin awoke... Mangog was defeated with ease. Yet, for some reason, you're trying to act like you were correct in your statements. When in fact, you were not.
OK Clownie.
I will post the next arc, in which he DID do exactly what I said he did.
You really are a bit "goofy" arencha?
Anyway, once I do that, you will have been soundly negated.
I cancelled all of your other arguments and you still haven't been able to remain civil for even a moment.

Kudos to you buddy!

Also, to those of you who are interested, while using Mangog's feats in comparison to the feats of other characters, remember that most of Mangog's greatest feats have taken place in Asgard, against Gods and Giants.

Now, here is the thing, Asgard has 3 times the gravity of Earth and real-space. Also, all matter is described as being roughly 3 times as dense, heavy, strong, etc.

Something to think about.

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No, it's the same character under different writers. When discussing a particular arc of any character you can claim he's never been defeated. It isn't saying much.
I would imagine that is, unless we are using the claim to support your side of an argument.

Hey! Do you like Thanos?
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Remember, this is a separate story arc from my previous posts.
Here is a taste of my future posts:

Looky here! Thor, knocked out, again. Neat!
And then, without even a coffee break, there is Mangog snatching up Odin, like a lil ole man.
And, yes, that is ODIN being mauled and tossed away by Mangog.
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Here's another goody. Once again, within the space of two pages, Thor is getting PLANTED.
And, yes again! That is Odin unconscious. But, he is only beat up, I don't want to lie and let you believe that THIS is the death scene.
That comes a bit later in the story.
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Do you guys like Thanos?
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Originally posted by Horrificus
I would imagine that is, unless we are using the claim to support your side of an argument.

Hey! Do you like Thanos?
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It's selective logic to use one arc and pretend he cannot be beaten.


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Originally posted by quanchi112
It's selective logic to use one arc and pretend he cannot be beaten.
But, that's not what I have been doing. The feats I have been presenting, along with Mangog's invincibility have been shown in at least 4 stories.

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Classic Mangog would own DP Tyrant and Thanos at the same time...

Horrificus has thoroughly cemented his argument...

Horrificus wins 10/10...

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Originally posted by Horrificus
But, that's not what I have been doing. The feats I have been presenting, along with Mangog's invincibility have been shown in at least 4 stories.
He was never invincible. He was tough to take down but you are comparing him to Tyrant someone who was beating Galactus.
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Classic Mangog would own DP Tyrant and Thanos at the same time...

Horrificus has thoroughly cemented his argument...

Horrificus wins 10/10...

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He couldn't beat either.


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I think classic Mangog takes it pretty handily.

He was basically a Unimind-type being that was purely physical.

Don't see Tyrant getting around that with plot device.


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I think classic Mangog takes it pretty handily.

He was basically a Unimind-type being that was purely physical.

Don't see Tyrant getting around that with plot device.
Tyrant is on another level to the point of being a threat to Galactus himself and winning their battle up until the point Morg interfered with the un.


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Tyrant is on another level to the point of being a threat to Galactus himself and winning their battle up until the point Morg interfered with the un.
Many characters have been a threat to Galactus, but usually after finding some way to amp themselves by gathering power that is above their true profile norms.

Due to his many feats, taking punishment and dishing it out, as well as the opponents he has defeated, I would describe him as being comparable to a much more powerful version of "Physical-Battle-Zeus".
(as per Hulk #622).
And, of course, with that physical aspect, Mangog still possesses his other abilities.

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Many characters have been a threat to Galactus, but usually after finding some way to amp themselves by gathering power that is above their true profile norms.

Due to his many feats, taking punishment and dishing it out, as well as the opponents he has defeated, I would describe him as being comparable to a much more powerful version of "Physical-Battle-Zeus".
(as per Hulk #622).
And, of course, with that physical aspect, Mangog still possesses his other abilities.
Galactus actually backed down to him and prepared himself by being well fed before their confrotnation.

Tyrant would own that Zeus as well. Tyrant is just on another level.


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Tyrant. De-powered or not, still feel he's way above such petty creatures.


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