From a movie stand point, it's a bad movie. Effects are tolerable if suspension of disbelief is present. Otherwise, every thing is either mild or horrible depending on perspective. And the movie logically makes no sense either.
Fire Lord:"We don't need the Earth Benders bending earth. Throw them on slave boats to prevent that."
Fire Nation Grunt:"Well.....we do have them in camps and their spirit is broken."
Fire Lord:"Well where are the camps?"
Fire Nation Grunt:"Next to a mountain. Don't worry, their spirit is broken and we have 4 campfires there just in case."
Fire Lord:"Hahahaha brilliant."
zuko: "come with me, or i will destroy the village"
aang: "I'll come with you, just don't hurt the village"
then there is possibly the most horrible and most pointless line in the show
aang: stops in the middle of a large battle, to say "the monks would meditate a lot, some monks would meditate for four days" paraphrasing, i probably butchered the line, but still, you get the idea.
aang: after escaping from zuko "we need to go to the northern water tribe."
soka: "there are a lot of villages on the way that are controlled by the fire nation, we could go from town to town, freeing them, on our way to the northern water tribe."
aang nods. rest of movie is a montage of them doing this.
Most of those abilities aren't from being an Earthbender, they're from being Toph. She's basically the best Earthbender in the World of Avatar, the only Metal Bender and someone who can see with her feet via Earthbending.
Pretty much all other Earthbenders lack those traits.
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i said earlier on that post that that is assuming you mastered everything about the bending. anyway, other benders could learn those things, Aang learned to feel like toph at the end, toph is just like an uber prodigy of earth bending, she would pretty much have to teach it to someone else, otherwise it would be pretty difficult to learn
A lot of Toph's attributes can most likely only be attained by being blind and thus able to better "listen" to the Earth. Aang is the Avatar so of course he could learn but I'm not sure anyone else could.
Look at Bumi, he was 113 years old and (other than Toph) probably the greatest living Earthbender. With all his years of experience he still couldn't metal bend or sense things like Toph did. That was why he knew Toph would be a better teacher for Aang.
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Well Toph could do it because she was in the same situation as the badger moles, blind as hell and needing a way to see. Besides the Avatar, I'm not sure any other bender could learn that.
the only thing superior about the avatar (besides the avatar state) is being able to bend all the elements, the rest is up to the individual. and like i said, aang was taught by toff, a blind earth bender who learned these abilities because she is blind. so she could teach those things to someone else, there is no reason to think that she couldn't.
I agree that to just learn on your own you would have to be blind to learn. and since bumi isn't blind it makes sense that he doesn't know it. bumi didn't know about toff, he just said that he needs to find someone who waits and listens, it just so happens that toff was that person, it had nothing to do with metal bending or seeing with your feet.
but just because thats exactly what she does, does not mean that she was who he meant. It could mean that bumi knew aang needed that sort of teacher, and toff was that sort of teacher he needed.
anyway, back to the argument that spawned this one. I think bumi could have learned metal bending and seeing with his feet at a younger age (like toff/aangs age) but right now i think he is too set in his ways for him to learn something new, or it would be really tough for him.
He's the Avatar. He was able to perform rudimentary firebending after next to no training with the deserter in Season One. He was also able to copy Katara's water bending just from seeing her do it once.
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I don't think thats because he is the avatar, i think that is because he is just good, he learned VERY quickly, partly because he had to, and partly because he is a prodigy. f/e avatar roku took years to master each element, aang did them in what, a few weeks.
its like i said, the reason he leaned to see through earthbending is because he was taught by toff. imo
No it's definitely because he's the Avatar. As the reincarnation of the previous Avatar (and all those before him) he has A Priori knowledge of bending that is just waiting to be unlocked and coaxed out of him. That's the only reason the Avatar can learn more than one style of bending. Some Avatars are probably more skilled than others (I'd reckon Kyoshi was probably number one before Aang came along) but they all have the same innate capacity to learn incredibly fast and well.
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