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Originally posted by Silent Master
Wait, so you're arguing that Superman is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger than Thor?


The current Superman is quite a new character and as such his powers are still in flux. I doubt he'll end up with a "multi-planetary scale" power level.

But in principle there's nothing that prevents characters from different publishers to have vastly different power levels. For example, pre-crisis Superman certainly was billions and billions of times stronger than Thor.

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But in principle there's nothing that prevents characters from different publishers to have vastly different power levels.
For example, pre-crisis Superman certainly was billions and billions of times stronger than Thor.


Exactly.

Nothing but forum sentiment.


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Superman fans on one in this thread lol. Come on Thor/Surfer fans. At least put up a fight sheesh.

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Originally posted by zopzop
What do you mean?
What Thor did there, and what people are passing it as, is similar to me saying that Superman [and the new gods] is capable of blowing planets with his heat vision, or holding them in his hand, based on this scan, where he is in the New Gods world, interacting with the normal [main DCU] dimension:

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First of all, the Serpent didn't encoil Earth in normal space, he went into the Void [notice its size in Asgard space - nowhere near continent, country or even city wide]:

(please log in to view the image)

That's why he is said to be in his etheral form, in the normal dimension [Earth's sphere]:

(please log in to view the image)

And that's why Thor needed to go to Asgard to deal with the Serpent, otherwise it would have made damage in the normal [Earth's] Universe:

(please log in to view the image)

Once there, Thor travels by boat in the void between Asgard and Earth [where the Serpent is] and uses a simple bull to fish it out:

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_15.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_16.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_17.jpg

In the subsequent showdown we, again, painfully see that the Serpent is nowhere near continent/Earth sized, relative to Thor [thus the bull being used as bait, lol]:

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_18.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_19.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_20.jpg

It is flat-out stated that space [and time] aren't the same in the Void [as if this wasn't ridiculously obvious anyway - when Thor fishes the goddamn Serpent in a boat using a bull from its supposed Earth-sized proportions]:

(please log in to view the image)

In the Void [as in the New Gods world] the normal limits and proportions of time/space don't apply. That's why, eventough the Serpent was small enough for Thor to stand face-to-face with him, and get fished out with a bull, he was capable of encoiling the Earth, and crushing it with his etheral form [as seen in the normal space/time] from the Void.
It's a non-feat.
This feat has been one of the most baffling, well kept lies in the history of KMC.


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laughing Damn. Cold blooded.

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Originally posted by Magnon
The current Superman is quite a new character and as such his powers are still in flux. I doubt he'll end up with a "multi-planetary scale" power level.

But in principle there's nothing that prevents characters from different publishers to have vastly different power levels. For example, pre-crisis Superman certainly was billions and billions of times stronger than Thor.
I dunno about multi, but he's had moon busting/planet moving strength for quite some time, years even, before the reboot. It just seems to me that he hasn't lost much.


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Wow good post Phil


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Wow good post Phil
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Thor is the context-iest one there is!


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Where are the Thor fans? These dudes are not only saying that Thor's strength is like a toddler in comparison to Supes, but one of his highest regarded feats is a complete myth! They're chumping y'all mang!!

Yes I'm instigating lol. It's a slow day at the office and I demand entertainment damnit!

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Where are the Thor fans? These dudes are saying Thor's strength is like a toddler in comparison, but one of his most highest regarded feats is a complete myth! They're chumping y'all mang!!

Yes I'm instigating lol. It's a slow day at the office and I demand entertainment damnit!
dood, stop trolling no expression


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dood, stop trolling no expression


Dood you gonna report me?

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Where are the Thor fans? These dudes are not only saying that Thor's strength is like a toddler in comparison to Supes, but one of his highest regarded feats is a complete myth! They're chumping y'all mang!!

Yes I'm instigating lol. It's a slow day at the office and I demand entertainment damnit!


slight correction;


I said a toddler compares more favorably to the greatest strongman in history than Thor compares to Superman.




dat salt.


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It's a little bit of trolling, or perhaps closer to freeposting than anything probably... but he's not targetting anyone in particular, and not really doing much harm.


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Originally posted by CosmicComet
slight correction;


I said a toddler compares more favorably to the greatest strongman in history than Thor compares to Superman.




dat salt.


laughing out loud

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Originally posted by Juntai
It's a little bit of trolling, or perhaps closer to freeposting than anything probably... but he's not targetting anyone in particular, and not really doing much harm.


Yeah I'm BSing around. Mostly. But I am kind of taken aback by the lack of a proper response to some of the claims and challenges that Supes fans have been making in various threads lately. Because lets face it, at the end of the day the things being stated here with regards to Thor vis a vis Superman (factual or not) by some are far more confrontation inducing than anything I've said lol.

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
slight correction;


I said a toddler compares more favorably to the greatest strongman in history than Thor compares to Superman.




dat salt.
One of. Pudz, Pfister, Saxon and some others have overshadowed him by quite a bit. Once upon a time though, he was that dude.


But we're in a different era of technology in the gym, coaching, super vitamins, and in some cases PEDs.


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Originally posted by Philosophía
What Thor did there, and what people are passing it as, is similar to me saying that Superman [and the new gods] is capable of blowing planets with his heat vision, or holding them in his hand, based on this scan, where he is in the New Gods world, interacting with the normal [main DCU] dimension:

(please log in to view the image)(please log in to view the image)(please log in to view the image)

First of all, the Serpent didn't encoil Earth in normal space, he went into the Void [notice its size in Asgard space - nowhere near continent, country or even city wide]:

(please log in to view the image)

That's why he is said to be in his etheral form, in the normal dimension [Earth's sphere]:

(please log in to view the image)

And that's why Thor needed to go to Asgard to deal with the Serpent, otherwise it would have made damage in the normal [Earth's] Universe:

(please log in to view the image)

Once there, Thor travels by boat in the void between Asgard and Earth [where the Serpent is] and uses a simple bull to fish it out:

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_15.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_16.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_17.jpg

In the subsequent showdown we, again, painfully see that the Serpent is nowhere near continent/Earth sized, relative to Thor [thus the bull being used as bait, lol]:

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_18.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_19.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/...1983_327_20.jpg

It is flat-out stated that space [and time] aren't the same in the Void [as if this wasn't ridiculously obvious anyway - when Thor fishes the goddamn Serpent in a boat using a bull from its supposed Earth-sized proportions]:

(please log in to view the image)

In the Void [as in the New Gods world] the normal limits and proportions of time/space don't apply. That's why, eventough the Serpent was small enough for Thor to stand face-to-face with him, and get fished out with a bull, he was capable of encoiling the Earth, and crushing it with his etheral form [as seen in the normal space/time] from the Void.
It's a non-feat.
This feat has been one of the most baffling, well kept lies in the history of KMC.

Hmm, so this feat of strength is disputable.

With this in dispute and the World Engine one unquantifiable, like Hercules' "lifting the heavens" crap, what does Thor have left?

The hollow skyscraper? The shared Asgard feat with BRB and their magic hammers? The Midgard Serpent's paw?

How does this compare to post Crisis Superman? We already seen DCNu Supes lift a planetary level weight. If he has any other lifting feats in this category, we can safely say he's leagues above Thor in terms of "lifting" strength.


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Originally posted by Magnon
The current Superman is quite a new character and as such his powers are still in flux. I doubt he'll end up with a "multi-planetary scale" power level.

But in principle there's nothing that prevents characters from different publishers to have vastly different power levels. For example, pre-crisis Superman certainly was billions and billions of times stronger than Thor.


IOW, you're arguing that current Superman is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger than Thor.


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Thor is stronger than Superman.

Whatever Superman can do, Thor can do +1.


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